Re: [GENERAL] Vacuum Vs Vacuum Full

2008-08-08 Thread Robert Shaw
Its 8.1 and I'm doing a Vacuum using the vacuumdb program. Thanks Matt, might be time for an upgrade. > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:21:44 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: pgsql-general@postgresql.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] V

Re: [GENERAL] Vacuum Vs Vacuum Full

2008-08-05 Thread Tom Lane
"Matthew T. O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> 8.2. But you could still get that message, even in CVS HEAD, if >> autovacuum was failing to complete for some reason (and had been >> failing for quite a long time). > Should that message to updated since a database-wide vacu

Re: [GENERAL] Vacuum Vs Vacuum Full

2008-08-05 Thread Matthew T. O'Connor
Tom Lane wrote: "Matthew T. O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BTW, what version of PostgreSQL is this? Database-wide vacuum is no longer required for XID wraparound issues. I think this was an 8.3 change but might have happened in 8.2, I don't remember. 8.2. But you could still get tha

Re: [GENERAL] Vacuum Vs Vacuum Full

2008-08-05 Thread Tom Lane
"Matthew T. O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Monday 04 August 2008 11:04:00 pm Robert Shaw wrote: >>> "WARNING: database "mydb" must be vacuumed within 177009986 transactions >>> HINT: To avoid a database shutdown, execute a full-database VACUUM in >>> "mydb". > BTW, what version of P

Re: [GENERAL] Vacuum Vs Vacuum Full

2008-08-05 Thread Matthew T. O'Connor
Adrian Klaver wrote: On Monday 04 August 2008 11:04:00 pm Robert Shaw wrote: "WARNING: database "mydb" must be vacuumed within 177009986 transactions HINT: To avoid a database shutdown, execute a full-database VACUUM in "mydb"."Which is reason I ask the question, is full vacuum backup useful f

Re: [GENERAL] Vacuum Vs Vacuum Full

2008-08-05 Thread Adrian Klaver
On Monday 04 August 2008 11:04:00 pm Robert Shaw wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying to get to the bottom of the differences between a vacuum > and a vacuum full, it seems to me that the difference is that a vacuum full > also recovers disk space(and locks things making it less than useful on > produ

[GENERAL] Vacuum Vs Vacuum Full

2008-08-05 Thread Robert Shaw
Hi, I've been trying to get to the bottom of the differences between a vacuum and a vacuum full, it seems to me that the difference is that a vacuum full also recovers disk space(and locks things making it less than useful on production servers). But I believe that both will fix the transacti