Re: [GENERAL] Research and EAV models

2009-10-24 Thread Simon Riggs
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 23:53 +0200, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: > I've followed this list for quite a long time, and I think that I've > discovered a pattern that I would like to discuss. > > It seems like there are two camps considering EAV models. On the one > hand, there are researchers who thin

Re: [GENERAL] Research and EAV models

2009-10-24 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: > I've followed this list for quite a long time, and I think that I've > discovered a pattern that I would like to discuss. > > It seems like there are two camps considering EAV models. On the one > hand, there are researchers who think th

Re: [GENERAL] Research and EAV models

2009-10-24 Thread Johan Nel
Hi Peter, I agree 100% with you. EAV can be a good "middle of the road" appoach as you suggest. Peter Hunsberger wrote: My take on this, for the research world, is to not go pure EAV, but rather normalize by some more generic concepts within the domain. Eg. "measurement", or "evaluation", e

Re: [GENERAL] Research and EAV models

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Hunsberger
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Greg Smith wrote: > > Your thinking this is a business/research distinction isn't right, it comes > down to the size of the data set and how fast/expressive the queries against > them are.  In the research realm, you can watch this struggle play in things > like bi

Re: [GENERAL] Research and EAV models

2009-10-23 Thread Greg Smith
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: I'm a researcher type, and I've made an EAV model that suits me well in my genealogy research. How can you associate an essentially unknown number of sundry "events" to a "person" without an EAV model? CREATE TABLE events(person text,key text,val

Re: [GENERAL] Research and EAV models

2009-10-23 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:53:26PM +0200, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: > I'm a researcher type, and I've made an EAV model that suits me well in > my genealogy research. How can you associate an essentially unknown > number of sundry "events" to a "person" without an EAV model? create table person

Re: [GENERAL] Research and EAV models

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Hunsberger
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > "Leif B. Kristensen" writes: >> It seems like there are two camps considering EAV models. On the one >> hand, there are researchers who think that EAV is a great way to meet >> their objectives. On the other hand, there are the "business" guys wh

Re: [GENERAL] Research and EAV models

2009-10-23 Thread Tom Lane
"Leif B. Kristensen" writes: > It seems like there are two camps considering EAV models. On the one > hand, there are researchers who think that EAV is a great way to meet > their objectives. On the other hand, there are the "business" guys who > thnk that EAV is crap. Well, no, it's not that

[GENERAL] Research and EAV models

2009-10-23 Thread Leif B. Kristensen
I've followed this list for quite a long time, and I think that I've discovered a pattern that I would like to discuss. It seems like there are two camps considering EAV models. On the one hand, there are researchers who think that EAV is a great way to meet their objectives. On the other hand,