Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-24 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Bret Stern > wrote: >> VoltDB maybe >> - Original Message - > > VoltDB has a completely different focus than PostgreSQL really. > PostgreSQL is a general purpose database that can achieve some very >

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-24 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Bret Stern wrote: > VoltDB maybe > - Original Message - VoltDB has a completely different focus than PostgreSQL really. PostgreSQL is a general purpose database that can achieve some very impressive numbers using super fast hardware, while still being a g

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Bret Stern
VoltDB maybe - Original Message - On 06:31 AM 03/23/2012 Frank Lanitz wrote: Am 23.03.2012 14:23, schrieb Adrian Klaver: > I would say either they got the numbers wrong or someone is pulling > your leg. That rate is not going to happen. Maybe twitter or facebook all in all... Cheers, F

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 03/23/2012 12:12 PM, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, John R Pierce wrote: On 03/23/12 9:17 AM, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: So in that time autovacuum is triggered. autovacuum runs pretty much continuously in the background, its not an on/off thing. Yes, I know. I ment that it

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Tom Lane wrote: Merlin Moncure writes: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: So I think XID overflow should be planned for one of the next PostgreSQL releases. two mitigating factors: 1. read only transactions do not increment xid counter Yes.

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, John R Pierce wrote: On 03/23/12 9:17 AM, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: So in that time autovacuum is triggered. autovacuum runs pretty much continuously in the background, its not an on/off thing. Yes, I know. I ment that it runs at least once in 1.5 days. Ciao, Gerhard

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> 2. xid wraparound counter is per table. > > That unfortunately isn't so, the XID counter is global to an installation. yup -- thinko: I was thinking about oid counter, not xid. thanks merlin -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-gene

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/23/12 9:17 AM, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: So in that time autovacuum is triggered. autovacuum runs pretty much continuously in the background, its not an on/off thing. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast -- Sent

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Tom Lane
Merlin Moncure writes: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Gerhard Wiesinger > wrote: >> So I think XID overflow should be planned for one of the next PostgreSQL >> releases. > two mitigating factors: > 1. read only transactions do not increment xid counter Yes. Ask your admin what his throug

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger
On 23.03.2012 11:16, Jan Kesten wrote: On 23.03.2012 06:45, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: With a database admin of a commercial database system I've discussed that they have to provide and they also achieve 2^31 transactions per SECOND! As PostgreSQL uses transaction IDs (XIDs) in the range of 2^31

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: > On 23.03.2012 11:16, Jan Kesten wrote: >> >> On 23.03.2012 06:45, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: >> >>> With a database admin of a commercial database system I've discussed >>> that they have to provide and they also achieve 2^31 transactions

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger
On 23.03.2012 11:16, Jan Kesten wrote: On 23.03.2012 06:45, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: With a database admin of a commercial database system I've discussed that they have to provide and they also achieve 2^31 transactions per SECOND! As PostgreSQL uses transaction IDs (XIDs) in the range of 2^31

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread John R Pierce
On 03/22/12 10:45 PM, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: With a database admin of a commercial database system I've discussed that they have to provide and they also achieve 2^31 transactions per SECOND! bullpucky. that's 2 transactions per NANOSECOND. light can travel about 6" in that time. half a

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 23.03.2012 14:23, schrieb Adrian Klaver: > I would say either they got the numbers wrong or someone is pulling > your leg. That rate is not going to happen. Maybe twitter or facebook all in all... Cheers, Frank -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make ch

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 03/22/2012 10:45 PM, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: Hello, With a database admin of a commercial database system I've discussed that they have to provide and they also achieve 2^31 transactions per SECOND! As PostgreSQL uses transaction IDs (XIDs) in the range of 2^31 they would turn around in abou

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Jan Kesten
On 23.03.2012 06:45, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote: > With a database admin of a commercial database system I've discussed > that they have to provide and they also achieve 2^31 transactions per > SECOND! > As PostgreSQL uses transaction IDs (XIDs) in the range of 2^31 they > would turn around in about

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Ondrej Ivanič
Hi, On 23 March 2012 19:14, Frank Lanitz wrote: > Am 23.03.2012 06:45, schrieb Gerhard Wiesinger: >> With a database admin of a commercial database system I've discussed >> that they have to provide and they also achieve 2^31 transactions per >> SECOND! > > Just corious: What is causing this many

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-23 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 23.03.2012 06:45, schrieb Gerhard Wiesinger: > With a database admin of a commercial database system I've discussed > that they have to provide and they also achieve 2^31 transactions per > SECOND! Just corious: What is causing this many transactions? Cheers, Frank -- Sent via pgsql-general

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL 64 Bit XIDs - Transaction IDs

2012-03-22 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger
Hello, With a database admin of a commercial database system I've discussed that they have to provide and they also achieve 2^31 transactions per SECOND! As PostgreSQL uses transaction IDs (XIDs) in the range of 2^31 they would turn around in about one second. How can one achieve this with P