Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string

2005-03-29 Thread Ken Johanson
The latest mysql build (5.0.3) now supports standard backslash behavior, using the below config option. set-variable=sql-mode=PIPES_AS_CONCAT,ANSI_QUOTES,NO_BACKSLASH_ESCAPE PG seems to be the last holdout. :-) Ken Ken Johanson wrote: [snip] I think most people agree that being SQL compliant is g

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Johanson
[snip] I think most people agree that being SQL compliant is good. The question is: is it worth the pain for existing users? My guess is that it is worth it, if the users are given the discretion of treading that water.. and to save them future pain by encouraging them to migrate toward 'other-db

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string

2005-02-28 Thread Jeff Davis
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 10:13 -0700, Ken Johanson wrote: > >I'm a little worried about PostgreSQL having the same problems as PHP. > >In PHP, every time you want to download an application, you never see > >"This application works on php 4+". Instead, you see "This application > >works on php4+ with

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escapeing

2005-02-28 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Incidently, if you disable the backslash quoting, how does one enter > raw binary data including NUL (\0) characters? The bytea type has its own internal quoting/escaping mechanism (which overlaps with the lexer's mechanism in some ways), so entering binary data i

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Johanson
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 10:13:00 -0700, Ken Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Besides, the version-deprecation / version requirements you mention exists in every piece of software I've even seen. Sometime they're okay with a really old version, sometime only the newest

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string

2005-02-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 10:13:00 -0700, Ken Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Besides, the version-deprecation / version requirements you mention > exists in every piece of software I've even seen. Sometime they're okay > with a really old version, sometime only the newest will do. This

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escapeing

2005-02-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 06:25:18PM -0700, Ken Johanson wrote: > I feel somewhat confident (very actually) that a config option that > disabled the backslash behavior globally(*) would be acceptable, BUT > leave the current backslash behavior turned on by default so that > current users are not i

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Johanson
I'm a little worried about PostgreSQL having the same problems as PHP. In PHP, every time you want to download an application, you never see "This application works on php 4+". Instead, you see "This application works on php4+ with the following config options set ". Sometimes these applications h

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escapeing

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Johanson
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 06:25:18PM -0700, Ken Johanson wrote: I feel somewhat confident (very actually) that a config option that disabled the backslash behavior globally(*) would be acceptable, BUT leave the current backslash behavior turned on by d

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string

2005-02-28 Thread Jeff Davis
On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 18:25 -0700, Ken Johanson wrote: > >>Uh, yea, this is going to require quite a bit of discussion in the > >>group, and I am concerned how it will affect other apps using > >>PostgreSQL. (The mode isn't going to be useful if it breaks plug-in > >>extensions and stuff.) > >>

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escapeing

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Johanson
Uh, yea, this is going to require quite a bit of discussion in the group, and I am concerned how it will affect other apps using PostgreSQL. (The mode isn't going to be useful if it breaks plug-in extensions and stuff.) The hard part of this isn't turning off backslash quoting; the code chan

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escapeing

2005-02-25 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian writes: >> Does anyone know if it will be possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO >> string escaping instead of C-style escapes? The C style escaping is a >> shoot-down for our adoption of postgres, since its non-standard. > Uh, yea, this is going to require quite a bit of discussi

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escapeing

2005-02-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Does anyone know if it will be possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO > string escaping instead of C-style escapes? The C style escaping is a > shoot-down for our adoption of postgres, since its non-standard. > > > Not yet, but we have a TODO item: > > * Allow backslash handling in q

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escapeing

2005-02-25 Thread Ken Johanson
Bruce Momjian wrote: Ken Johanson wrote: Greetings, Does anyone know if it will be possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escaping instead of C-style escapes? The C style escaping is a shoot-down for our adoption of postgres, since its non-standard. Not yet,

Re: [GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escapeing

2005-02-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Ken Johanson wrote: > Greetings, > > Does anyone know if it will be possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO > string escaping instead of C-style escapes? The C style escaping is a > shoot-down for our adoption of postgres, since its non-standard. Not yet, but we have a TODO item: * Al

[GENERAL] Possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escapeing instead of C-style escapes?

2005-02-23 Thread Ken Johanson
Greetings, Does anyone know if it will be possible to run the server with ANSI/ISO string escaping instead of C-style escapes? The C style escaping is a shoot-down for our adoption of postgres, since its non-standard. Thanks, ken ---(end of broadcast)