On 6/17/07, Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Perl has a high entry barrier.
yeah right ;).
perl is time-tested better for sys admin than the web. and we all know how
sys admins want to use the same code for the web but it doesn't cut right.
*if anything* php is 'enhanced perl' for the w
On Jun 16, 2007, at 7:51 PM, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
On Saturday 16. June 2007 23:34, Erick Papadakis wrote:
How much value you derive from a language
depends on how you use it. After playing for years with Perl, and now
with Python and Ruby, I think PHP is still where it's at.
I too have
On Jun 16, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Uwe C. Schroeder wrote:
On Saturday 16 June 2007, John Smith wrote:
guys,
love both tools but php @ 2.5 *billion* google results is far more
popular than postgresql @ 25 million google results. *if* somebody's
gotto adapt it's not php. php does what it does best
On Jun 16, 2007, at 3:38 PM, John Smith wrote:
guys,
love both tools but php @ 2.5 *billion* google results is far more
popular than postgresql @ 25 million google results. *if* somebody's
gotto adapt it's not php. php does what it does best in a way that
stuffy academics don't get.
I would
On 6/17/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's like saying that BSD or Linux should be more like
> Windows because there's more Windows than Linux stuff
> to be found on the web
You've not used KDE lately, have you? :)
That'll be right. I use fluxbox. :}
And while *ix migh
On Saturday 16. June 2007 23:34, Erick Papadakis wrote:
>How much value you derive from a language
>depends on how you use it. After playing for years with Perl, and now
>with Python and Ruby, I think PHP is still where it's at.
I too have played around with Perl and Python, and use both of them f
On 6/17/07, PFC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I either use pg_query_params() which automagically handles all quoting,
or an ORM which does the same.
There is no reason to include strings in SQL statements except laziness.
MySQL does not have a mysql_query_params() for PHP, so you have to write
on
On 6/17/07, Raymond O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Having said that, the main gripes I would have with PHP are (i)
variables aren't strongly typed, which can bite you unless you're
careful, and (ii) you don't have to declare variables before using them,
which can also cause trouble - in VBS
On 06/16/07 15:34, John Smith wrote:
On 6/16/07, Uwe C. Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mhhh - what does PHP have to do with Postgresql? Lots of pages just end
in .php, which is why the google results are so high - guess what, the
tool "html" hits 3.2 billion :-)
show me a database that do
I wouldn't call Python *strongly* typed, but I do know what you mean. I
think.
It is strongly typed (string + int = error), just not statically typed
(but you saw what I mean ;)
"PHP: very loosely typed, does whatever it wants"
yeah php got a life of its own! sure be a lazy programmer
On 6/16/07, Uwe C. Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mhhh - what does PHP have to do with Postgresql? Lots of pages just end
in .php, which is why the google results are so high - guess what, the
tool "html" hits 3.2 billion :-)
show me a database that doesn't respect html and i'll show you o
and that's not how it is?? ever tried ubuntu and saw how it looks a
bit like windows thesedays??
good luck but try getting funding/acceptance with this line "i wanna
design a new tool but i don't want features from that other tool that
work in the market"
let's stop blaming php if you don't know
On 06/16/07 15:04, Andrej Ricnik-Bay wrote:
On 6/17/07, John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
guys,
love both tools but php @ 2.5 *billion* google results is far more
popular than postgresql @ 25 million google results. *if* somebody's
gotto adapt it's not php. php does what it does best in a wa
On Saturday 16 June 2007, John Smith wrote:
> guys,
> love both tools but php @ 2.5 *billion* google results is far more
> popular than postgresql @ 25 million google results. *if* somebody's
> gotto adapt it's not php. php does what it does best in a way that
> stuffy academics don't get.
Mhhh -
On 6/17/07, John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
guys,
love both tools but php @ 2.5 *billion* google results is far more
popular than postgresql @ 25 million google results. *if* somebody's
gotto adapt it's not php. php does what it does best in a way that
stuffy academics don't get.
That's li
On 06/16/07 11:24, PFC wrote:
[snip]
It's a matter of mindset. PHP and Postgres have really opposite
mindsets. Python is a lot more similar to Postgres, for instance :
- Postgres, Python : strongly typed, throws an error rather than
doing funny stuff with your data, your code does wh
guys,
love both tools but php @ 2.5 *billion* google results is far more
popular than postgresql @ 25 million google results. *if* somebody's
gotto adapt it's not php. php does what it does best in a way that
stuffy academics don't get.
On 6/16/07, PFC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"PHP: very loose
Raymond O'Donnell wrote:
On 16/06/2007 16:46, PFC wrote:
Also note that PHP, being PHP, sucks, and thusly, will not
reconnect persistent connections when they fail. You have to kick it a
bit.
I've seen similar negative comments before on this list about PHP, and
I'm curious to know what
I've seen similar negative comments before on this list about PHP, and
I'm curious to know what informs them.
Maybe the fact that, when I coded a database object/form library, it took
me LONGER to ensure that empty strings / NULLs / zero valued floats and
integers / etc were handled corr
On 16/06/2007 16:46, PFC wrote:
Also note that PHP, being PHP, sucks, and thusly, will not reconnect
persistent connections when they fail. You have to kick it a bit.
I've seen similar negative comments before on this list about PHP, and
I'm curious to know what informs them.
I use PHP
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