Re: [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-31 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:27 -0500, Jonah H. Harris wrote: I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as IzPack). Just

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:27 -0500, Jonah H. Harris wrote: > I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in > Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could > build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as > IzPack). Just my 2 cents :)

Re: [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 08:36 +0100, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > >>Are you going to work with the underlying system's package manager, or > >>put everything in /usr/local? > > > > > > We'll work with the package manager -- I'm an RPM guy ;) > > > RPM isnt the only packaging system out there ;)

Re: [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-31 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Tino Wildenhain wrote: Jonah H. Harris schrieb: I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as IzPack). Just my 2 cents :) Yes! Use Java for

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-31 Thread A. Kretschmer
am 31.01.2006, um 8:46:44 +0100 mailte Tino Wildenhain folgendes: > Jonah H. Harris schrieb: > >I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in Java... > >IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could build off > >some nice OSS installers that already exist (such

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Tino Wildenhain wrote: Devrim GUNDUZ schrieb: Hi, ... Are you going to work with the underlying system's package manager, or put everything in /usr/local? We'll work with the package manager -- I'm an RPM guy ;) RPM isnt the only packaging system out there ;) I th

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Jonah H. Harris schrieb: I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as IzPack). Just my 2 cents :) Yes! Use Java for ultimate suckiness of th

Re: [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Devrim GUNDUZ schrieb: Hi, ... Are you going to work with the underlying system's package manager, or put everything in /usr/local? We'll work with the package manager -- I'm an RPM guy ;) RPM isnt the only packaging system out there ;) ---(end of broadcast)--

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: On my RHEL boxes, I do never ever recompile the kernel since Red Hat does not provide support if I do so :) Is everything 'loadable modules' then? I can't imagine you have some mammoth kernel running on your system, do you?

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Doug McNaught
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > >> On my RHEL boxes, I do never ever recompile the kernel since Red Hat >> does not provide support if I do so :) > > Is everything 'loadable modules' then? I can't imagine you have some > mammoth kernel

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Jonah H. Harris
I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as IzPack).  Just my 2 cents :) On 1/30/06, Devrim GUNDUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,On Mon, 2006-01-3

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Marc G. Fournier wrote: More seriously, I know under FreeBSD, one of the first things that gets done after installing is to customize the kernel to get rid of all the 'cruft' part of the generic kernel, I take it that this isn't something that ppl do with Linux? The Linux kernel has lo

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: On my RHEL boxes, I do never ever recompile the kernel since Red Hat does not provide support if I do so :) Is everything 'loadable modules' then? I can't imagine you have some mammoth kernel running on your system, do you? with every conceivable p

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 22:04 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> BTW, gcc is not installed on by default AFAIR. > > Wow, how do you update the kernel each week? :) > > More seriously, I know under FreeBSD, one of the first things that gets > done after installing is to customize the kernel to

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: BTW, gcc is not installed on by default AFAIR. Wow, how do you update the kernel each week? :) More seriously, I know under FreeBSD, one of the first things that gets done after installing is to customize the kernel to get rid of all the 'cruft' par

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:31 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: > > You can install, but what if you need different configure options than > > the package provides? This means a rebuild of the package. Instead, we > > will build and install that package via the installer. > > That's actually a pretty

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:34 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > OTOH, exluding Synaptic that I hate to use, FC / RH does not have a GUI > > RPM interface for the repositories. So our installer will help them a > > lot. Also, our installer will have an option to download and install the > > preb

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:31 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: > > Certainly you can install pre-built binaries without a compiler, and > let the user choose database location, autovacuum settings and stuff > like that. That's another good point. We can adjust many settings before installing. Reg

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:03 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you need to be a Python guy to join the project. We a

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:27 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > >OTOH, exluding Synaptic that I hate to use, FC / RH does not have a GUI > >RPM interface for the repositories. So our installer will help them a > >lot. Also, our installer will have an option to download and install the > >prebuilt

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Doug McNaught
Devrim GUNDUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:03 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: > >> What value does this bring to systems that have a good package system >> and up-to-date repositories? I can install Postgres today on Ubuntu >> using a GUI tool, and install another GUI tool t

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer

2006-01-30 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: OTOH, exluding Synaptic that I hate to use, FC / RH does not have a GUI RPM interface for the repositories. So our installer will help them a lot. Also, our installer will have an option to download and install the prebuilt binaries from PostgreSQL FTP site (and possible o

Re: [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:03 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: > > We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me > > an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you > > need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning phase, > > if you j

Re: [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Doug McNaught
Devrim GUNDUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgnixinstaller/ > > We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me > an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you > need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in pla

[GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for Linux/Unix systems

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, As you know, many databases that run on Linux / Unix systems have a GUI installer which make installation easier and more attractive for some people. Our Windows Installer is very attractive, for example. Now, I and Burcu Guzel, who is a Senior Programmer, decided to launch a new project: p