Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-14 Thread Alban Hertroys
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > FreeBSD (Stable releases only) I suppose you meant stable _and_ releases? ;) -- Alban Hertroys [EMAIL PROTECTED] magproductions b.v. T: ++31(0)534346874 F: ++31(0)534346876 M: I: www.magproductions.nl A: Postbus 416 7500 AK Enschede // Integrate Your World //

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Steve Atkins
On Dec 13, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Markus Schiltknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John D. Burger wrote: Sure, but they won't use PG either, for essentially the same reason, since =all= PG support is "third party". So one can debate if i.e. EnterpriseDB is providing third party

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Reece Hart
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 14:21 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > I think the real criterion for big companies is not so much whether > you're supporting your "own" product as whether you're big enough to > be worth suing if things go wrong. This is a common misunderstanding and it is incorrect, at least in

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/13/06 20:05, Gregory S. Williamson wrote: > FWIW, there is a follow-up note on the original posting from a > MySQL person: > > "we are just starting to roll out [Enterprise] binaries... We > don't build binaries for Debian in part because the De

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Gregory S. Williamson
006 10:11 AM To: Alvaro Herrera Cc: David Goodenough; pgsql general Subject: Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 12:01, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Scott Marlowe wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 10:50, David Goodenough wrote: > > &g

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Ron Mayer
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:20 -0500, John D. Burger wrote: >> Surely there are also third-party companies that provide "support" >> for MySqueal in some similar sense? Yeah. HP for example [links below]. HP announced support for Debian and MySQL (and the JBoss Stack as w

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread John D. Burger
Tom Lane wrote: The other point I'd make against John's argument is that there are a whole lot of Fortune 500 companies buying Red Hat support, and RH is effectively a third party for large chunks of Linux. (Of course, there are also large chunks for which Red Hat employees write as much code a

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Tom Lane
Markus Schiltknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John D. Burger wrote: >> Sure, but they won't use PG either, for essentially the same reason, >> since =all= PG support is "third party". > So one can debate if i.e. EnterpriseDB is providing third party support > for PostgreSQL or first-hand sup

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:37 -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to "John D. Burger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > The good thing is that there are several companies supporting > > > Postgres, > > > so whatever one of them does it does not affect the market as a whole. > > > > Surely there are

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Markus Schiltknecht
Hi, John D. Burger wrote: Sure, but they won't use PG either, for essentially the same reason, since =all= PG support is "third party". Maybe. But at least these third parties can take the source and build their own product on top of it, without significant limitations. So one can debate if

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:00 -0600, Tony Caduto wrote: > John D. Burger wrote: > > > > Sure, but they won't use PG either, for essentially the same reason, > > since =all= PG support is "third party". > > > > > They would probably use EnterpriseDB though :-) Or Command Prompt like several extremel

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Tony Caduto
John D. Burger wrote: Sure, but they won't use PG either, for essentially the same reason, since =all= PG support is "third party". They would probably use EnterpriseDB though :-) -- Tony Caduto AM Software Design http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Home of PG Lightning Admin for Postgresql Yo

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread John D. Burger
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Surely there are also third-party companies that provide "support" for MySqueal in some similar sense? Of course :) but... Fortune 2500+ for the most part will *not* use a third party for support for something like MySQL. Sure, but they won't use PG either, for essenti

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Bill Moran
In response to "John D. Burger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The good thing is that there are several companies supporting > > Postgres, > > so whatever one of them does it does not affect the market as a whole. > > Surely there are also third-party companies that provide "support" > for MySqueal

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:20 -0500, John D. Burger wrote: > > The good thing is that there are several companies supporting > > Postgres, > > so whatever one of them does it does not affect the market as a whole. > > Surely there are also third-party companies that provide "support" > for MySqu

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Stephen Frost
* John D. Burger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >The good thing is that there are several companies supporting > >Postgres, > >so whatever one of them does it does not affect the market as a whole. > > Surely there are also third-party companies that provide "support" > for MySqueal in some simi

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Russ Brown
John D. Burger wrote: The good thing is that there are several companies supporting Postgres, so whatever one of them does it does not affect the market as a whole. Surely there are also third-party companies that provide "support" for MySqueal in some similar sense? There probably are, b

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread John D. Burger
The good thing is that there are several companies supporting Postgres, so whatever one of them does it does not affect the market as a whole. Surely there are also third-party companies that provide "support" for MySqueal in some similar sense? - John Burger MITRE

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 12:01, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Scott Marlowe wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 10:50, David Goodenough wrote: > > > http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/13/1515217&from=rss > > > > > > "MySQL quietly deprecated support for most Linux distributions on October >

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 15:01 -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Scott Marlowe wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 10:50, David Goodenough wrote: > > > http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/13/1515217&from=rss > > > > > > "MySQL quietly deprecated support for most Linux distributions on Octob

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 10:50, David Goodenough wrote: > > http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/13/1515217&from=rss > > > > "MySQL quietly deprecated support for most Linux distributions on October > > 16, > > when its 'MySQL Network' support plan was replaced

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 10:50, David Goodenough wrote: > http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/13/1515217&from=rss > > "MySQL quietly deprecated support for most Linux distributions on October 16, > when its 'MySQL Network' support plan was replaced by 'MySQL Enterprise.' > MySQL now

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread Madison Kelly
David Goodenough wrote: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/13/1515217&from=rss "MySQL quietly deprecated support for most Linux distributions on October 16, when its 'MySQL Network' support plan was replaced by 'MySQL Enterprise.' MySQL now supports only two Linux distribution

[GENERAL] MySQL drops support for most distributions

2006-12-13 Thread David Goodenough
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/13/1515217&from=rss "MySQL quietly deprecated support for most Linux distributions on October 16, when its 'MySQL Network' support plan was replaced by 'MySQL Enterprise.' MySQL now supports only two Linux distributions — Red Hat Enterprise Lin