Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD.

2004-11-16 Thread Sim Zacks
That would be the perfect solution for us, but apparantly not for the rest of the world. Since they are offering us 4 and saying we can apply for the other 16 in 6 months, I would take that and not try to take an all or nothing attitude. More of a work with the newsgroup people then against them at

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD.

2004-11-14 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 01:54 AM 11/14/2004, Sim Zacks wrote: BTW, in Outlook Express if you are posting to the news.postgresql.org server it will not send a message to news.groups. So this message will not get there unless someone puts it there. If 4 are official and 16 are unofficial, why would that bother you? Becau

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD.

2004-11-14 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 11:54 AM 11/14/2004, you wrote: The new proposal should have all of the lists. This is true. All the mailing lists that gate to USENet should either be legitimized or removed. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread pvaurio
The new proposal should have all of the lists. I am amazed that an unknown interloper is trying to dictate which lists should be voted on. I am affiliated with a network of over 60 PostgreSql users/developers, and I will e-mail each one of those people a ballot. If your next proposal does not conta

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread Klaas
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > comp.databases.postgresql.general How about just comp.databases.postgresql or (shudder) comp.databases.postgresql.misc? -Mike ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/readin

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread Sim Zacks
BTW, in Outlook Express if you are posting to the news.postgresql.org server it will not send a message to news.groups. So this message will not get there unless someone puts it there. If 4 are official and 16 are unofficial, why would that bother you? You can still access all of them the same way

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread Russ Allbery
In news.groups, Klaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> comp.databases.postgresql.general > How about just comp.databases.postgresql or (shudder) > comp.databases.postgresql.misc? In this particular situation, I think .general may actually be a better name tha

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments

2004-11-13 Thread Woodchuck Bill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > As a side note ... if/when the CFV is called and those 4 are > approved/rejected, that will not change what is available on > news.postgresql.org, it will only improve the propogation of those 4 > specific groups so that

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread Klaas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Bell) wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Klaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Mike Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> comp.databases.postgresql.general > > > >How about just comp.databases.postgresql or (shudder) > >comp.data

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread Rolf Østvik
Mike Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] berlin.de: > Obviously, there cannot be 21 postgresql groups in the comp.* hierarchy. I agree > I did a check on news.postgresql.org to see which newsgroups are the most > popular and also the ones which cover the relevant postgresql

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread Arthur L. Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is my last post to news.groups about this. Good. With any luck, Marc will block you from the mailing lists for spamming those lists. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread Jon Bell
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Klaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mike Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> comp.databases.postgresql.general > >How about just comp.databases.postgresql or (shudder) >comp.databases.postgresql.misc? The whole point of this proposa

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread Brian Mailman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am affiliated with a network of over 60 PostgreSql users/developers, and I will e-mail each one of those people a ballot... You should not do that. Those ballots will be invalidated since only the official ballots that are posted or obtained directly from the votetaker a

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-13 Thread Kenneth Downs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The new proposal should have all of the lists. I am amazed that an > unknown interloper is trying to dictate which lists should be voted on. > I am affiliated with a network of over 60 PostgreSql users/developers, > and I will e-mail each one of those people a ballot. If

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD.

2004-11-10 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 16:37 -0800, Mike Cox wrote: > The ones not on the list to be made into the big 8 will always be accessible > from the news.postgresql.org server. > > Also, please, if I've missed an important group you think SHOULD be in the > big 8, please let me know in this thread. pgsq

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments

2004-11-09 Thread Mike Cox
Woodchuck Bill wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote in > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> As a side note ... if/when the CFV is called and those 4 are >> approved/rejected, that will not change what is available on >> news.postgresql.org, it will only improve the propogation of those

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-09 Thread Mike Cox
Brian Mailman wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I am affiliated with a network of over 60 PostgreSql users/developers, >> and I will e-mail each one of those people a ballot... > > You should not do that. > > Those ballots will be invalidated since only the official ballots that > are post

Re: [GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments

2004-11-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
As a side note ... if/when the CFV is called and those 4 are approved/rejected, that will not change what is available on news.postgresql.org, it will only improve the propogation of those 4 specific groups so that more servers around the world carry them ... On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Mike Cox wrote:

[GENERAL] I'm about to release the next postgresql RFD. Comments wanted.

2004-11-09 Thread Mike Cox
Obviously, there cannot be 21 postgresql groups in the comp.* hierarchy. Many of the 21 are not used that often, and would not be of much popularity to those on usenet. I did a check on news.postgresql.org to see which newsgroups are the most popular and also the ones which cover the relevant pos