Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-02-04 Thread Juan Casero (FL FLC)
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Colombo Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:30 PM To: Joshua D. Drake Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> Is there any evidence of the above

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-02-04 Thread Marco Colombo
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Is there any evidence of the above claim? I've seen a link to a l-k bug report about ext3, but apparently it was totally unconfirmed (and a single bug does not mean a FS is not good - I remember XFS being hammered heavily before being accepted into Linux)

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread mmiranda
>> Can I expect that a software developed on Linux will run and compile >> on FreeBSD (since both use GCC)? >> > In general yes. Sometimes they do require some tweaks though. Specially if they rely heavily on threads (i.e mysql, freeradius, etc) I have some implementation issues with this (i.e.

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Mage
I run Postgres on Gentoo and it works fine. By the way, I have to tell that the best linux is Gentoo. Mage ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Terry Lee Tucker
ent by: cc: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: > [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution tgresql.org > > > 01/21/2005 01:15 PM > > Patrick Welche wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:23:47PM -0200, Bruno Almeida do Lago

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Richard_D_Levine
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Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Chris Travers
ginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:59 PM To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution I disagree on number 1, in fact , untar, cd, ./configure, make, make install i

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Joshua D. Drake
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:59 PM To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution I disagree on number 1, in fact , untar, cd, ./configure, make, make install is all you have to do on BSD, not RPM nightmares, at least on Freebsd and OpenBSD, not sure of

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Joshua D. Drake
NERAL] Best Linux Distribution Patrick Welche wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:23:47PM -0200, Bruno Almeida do Lago wrote: Any info about NetBSD? That's all we use - no problems, so never had to do any comparisons.. Hmmm, with that attitude, we'd all still be riding ho

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Bruno Almeida do Lago
: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution I disagree on number 1, in fact , untar, cd, ./configure, make, make install is all you have to do on BSD, not RPM nightmares, at least on Freebsd and OpenBSD, not sure of NetBSD, I agreee on all others comments --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread mmiranda
] Behalf Of Ian Harding Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution I didn't see the post asking about NetBSD, but I can answer it a bit: I think NetBSD is like other BSD in that: 1. untar, cd, ./conf

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Bruno Almeida do Lago
lf Of Geoffrey Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:15 PM To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution Patrick Welche wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:23:47PM -0200, Bruno Almeida do Lago wrote: > >>Any info about NetBSD? > > > That's all

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Ian Harding
I didn't see the post asking about NetBSD, but I can answer it a bit: I think NetBSD is like other BSD in that: 1. untar, cd, ./configure, make, install doesn't usually work. They put stuff in different places and not everyone in the Linux world cares enough to account for them. 2. Out of the

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Geoffrey
Patrick Welche wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:23:47PM -0200, Bruno Almeida do Lago wrote: Any info about NetBSD? That's all we use - no problems, so never had to do any comparisons.. Hmmm, with that attitude, we'd all still be riding horse and buggies.. -- Until later, Geoffrey

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Patrick Welche
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:23:47PM -0200, Bruno Almeida do Lago wrote: > Any info about NetBSD? That's all we use - no problems, so never had to do any comparisons.. Patrick ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Friday 21 January 2005 11:23 am, Bruno Almeida do Lago wrote: > Any info about NetBSD? > > Bruno > Recent OS benchmarks (nothing specific to PostgreSQL) were compared to FreeBSD 5.3 and posted at: http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/gmcgarry/ I don't know enough to apply the information to the discus

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-21 Thread Bruno Almeida do Lago
Any info about NetBSD? Bruno -Original Message- From: Matthew Story [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:16 PM To: Bruno Almeida do Lago Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution for the stability of BSD you should look into their development categories

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Stuart Bishop
Esteban Kemp wrote: I'm starting to develop a production enviroment with Postgres and Tomcat, And I have to choose between some free linux distribution like: whitebox RHEL Fedora Suse Which is the better distribution in terms of postgres? if this has an answer If you are looking for boxes to r

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Jason C. Wells
--On Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:14 AM -0300 Esteban Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm starting to develop a production enviroment with Postgres and Tomcat, And I have to choose between some free linux distribution like: whitebox RHEL Fedora Suse Which is the better distribution in terms of p

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Quinton Delpeche
On Friday 21 January 2005 07:40, Andrew L. Gould wrote: We are running a 200 user system off a SUN Fire v40z using SuSE Linux 9.2 for AMD64. On average we process a JSP page in 300 ms, country wide and have approximately 300 tables with over 3 000 000 records in the PostgresQL DB. I would reco

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 20 January 2005 09:20 pm, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Does it have to be linux? I've never had as much success with > > PostGresql on linux as i have on FreeBSD 5.3 > > For XFS? I don't think you are going to have with FreeBSD and XFS. > If IIRC (some freebsd p

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Joshua D. Drake
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it have to be linux? I've never had as much success with PostGresql on linux as i have on FreeBSD 5.3 For XFS? I don't think you are going to have with FreeBSD and XFS. If IIRC (some freebsd person please chime in) that is one thing that Linux has over FreeBSD whic

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Joshua D. Drake
David Garamond wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: Well that isnt exactly true. EXT3 is a bolt on to EXT2 which was always there. Reiser is also a long time kernel at least from 2.2. I remember first using reiser3 by patching early 2.4 kernels. IIRC, reiser was not in linus tree until 2.4.7 or so (not

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread mstory
Does it have to be linux? I've never had as much success with PostGresql on linux as i have on FreeBSD 5.3 matt Quoting David Garamond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Well that isnt exactly true. EXT3 is a bolt on to EXT2 which was always > > there. Reiser is also a long time

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread David Garamond
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Well that isnt exactly true. EXT3 is a bolt on to EXT2 which was always there. Reiser is also a long time kernel at least from 2.2. I remember first using reiser3 by patching early 2.4 kernels. IIRC, reiser was not in linus tree until 2.4.7 or so (not sure which release) a

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Joshua D. Drake
^ Is there any evidence of the above claim? I've seen a link to a l-k bug report about ext3, but apparently it was totally unconfirmed (and a single bug does not mean a FS is not good - I remember XFS being hammered heavily before being accepted into Li

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think you forget the origins of the XFS filesystem. XFS was originally created for SGI's IRIX operating system, and specifically designed for handling large files and filesystems at high speeds. It is very fast, and quite well tested: it was in h

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Vittorio
Alle 10:09, giovedì 20 gennaio 2005, Bruno Almeida do Lago ha scritto: > I still opt for Slackware simplicity and stability. Nothing better than a > well configured Slackware box with XFS file system and PostgreSQL! =) > > C Ya, > Bruno For a generic use of postgresql, binary packages in any linu

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Abdul-Wahid Paterson
I think the filesystem you choose depends what you are looking for. Ext3 is by far the most tested and most stable out the file systems available. It is basically just ext2 with journalling stuck on top (and a few other niceities). XFS may well be faster but is perhaps not so well tested or as stab

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Marco Colombo
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: No difference whatsoever from PostgreSQL's point of view. Use whichever distribution is easiest for you to administer. After all, there's no point installing Postgres on a machine you don't know how to maintain or tune :) Act

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-20 Thread Bruno Almeida do Lago
:32 PM To: Martijn van Oosterhout; pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution When I had customers faced with this decision, we made the recommendation based on which distro employs major contributors of the software project in question. For Postgresql's

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Lonni J Friedman
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:39:23 +0200 (EET), Devrim GUNDUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Guy Rouillier wrote: > > >> On whitebox & RHEL ext3 is really the only choice. However, FC3 > >> provides all the other major fil

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Guy Rouillier wrote: On whitebox & RHEL ext3 is really the only choice. However, FC3 provides all the other major filesystems as choices (XFS, reiser). I just tried to install FC3 AMD64, and the only choice it would give me for

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Guy Rouillier wrote: Lonni J Friedman wrote: On whitebox & RHEL ext3 is really the only choice. However, FC3 provides all the other major filesystems as choices (XFS, reiser). I just tried to install FC3 AMD64, and the only choice it would give me for an installation was ext3. Since I pr

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Guy Rouillier
Lonni J Friedman wrote: > > On whitebox & RHEL ext3 is really the only choice. However, FC3 > provides all the other major filesystems as choices (XFS, reiser). I just tried to install FC3 AMD64, and the only choice it would give me for an installation was ext3. Since I prefer Reiser, I gave u

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Lonni J Friedman
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:19:33 -0800, Bricklen Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > > >> No difference whatsoever from PostgreSQL's point of view. Use whichever > >> distribution is easiest for you to administer. After all, there's no > >>

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake Out of curiousity, which fs would you recommend for a ~terabyte oltp db? XFS without a doubt. XFS has excellent large file (and filesystem) support. I second the XFS statement. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- Command Prompt, Inc., home of Mammoth Postg

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Lonni J Friedman
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:03:31 -0800, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > >No difference whatsoever from PostgreSQL's point of view. Use whichever > >distribution is easiest for you to administer. After all, there's no > >point installing Postgres on a mach

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Ron Mayer
When I had customers faced with this decision, we made the recommendation based on which distro employs major contributors of the software project in question. For Postgresql's case, RedHat's employment of Tom made our recommendation to use Red Hat. Some of our clients are running .NET front ends,

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Bricklen Anderson
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: No difference whatsoever from PostgreSQL's point of view. Use whichever distribution is easiest for you to administer. After all, there's no point installing Postgres on a machine you don't know how to maintain or tune :) Actually there is a d

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: No difference whatsoever from PostgreSQL's point of view. Use whichever distribution is easiest for you to administer. After all, there's no point installing Postgres on a machine you don't know how to maintain or tune :) Actually there is a difference from PostgreS

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Bruno Almeida do Lago
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi, > > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Esteban Kemp wrote: > >> I'm starting to develop a production enviroment with Postgres and >> Tomca

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Geoffrey
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Esteban Kemp wrote: I'm starting to develop a production enviroment with Postgres and Tomcat, And I have to choose between some free linux distribution like: whitebox RHEL RHEL is not free (of charge). Fed

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
No difference whatsoever from PostgreSQL's point of view. Use whichever distribution is easiest for you to administer. After all, there's no point installing Postgres on a machine you don't know how to maintain or tune :) Hope this helps, On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 11:14:00AM -0300, Esteban Kemp wro

Re: [GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Esteban Kemp wrote: I'm starting to develop a production enviroment with Postgres and Tomcat, And I have to choose between some free linux distribution like: whitebox RHEL RHEL is not free (of charge). Fedora Suse SLES is again

[GENERAL] Best Linux Distribution

2005-01-19 Thread Esteban Kemp
I'm starting to develop a production enviroment with Postgres and Tomcat, And I have to choose between some free linux distribution like:   whiteboxRHELFedora Suse   Which is the better distribution in terms of postgres? if this has an answer