Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-08 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 04/07/2017 08:56 PM, rob stone wrote: Hello Adrian, On Thu, 2017-04-06 at 21:24 -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote: On 04/06/2017 08:01 PM, rob stone wrote: That is the default location and is generally the case in a source install. Package maintainers can and do often put them elsewhere. AFA

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-08 Thread Daniel Verite
rob stone wrote: > You create a new cluster by running initdb:- > > initdb -D /path/to/my/new/cluster No, if you want to use the infrastructure brought by the debian packages for your cluster, it should be created with: pg_createcluster 9.5 nameofcluster See https://wiki.debian.org/Pos

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-07 Thread rob stone
Hello Adrian, On Thu, 2017-04-06 at 21:24 -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote: > On 04/06/2017 08:01 PM, rob stone wrote: > > > > > > > That is the default location and is generally the case in a source  > install. Package maintainers can and do often put them elsewhere. > AFAIK  > the Debian/Ubuntu w

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 04/05/2017 09:05 PM, Tom Lane wrote: (But ... these statements are based on an assumption of out-of-the- box Postgres behavior. I would not exactly put it past the Debian packagers to have decided to change this for reasons of their own, and their track record of telling us about such dec

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-07 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Magnus Hagander 2017-04-06 > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > * Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote: > > > (But ... these statements are based on an assumption of out-of-the- > > > box Postgres behavior. I would not exactly put it past the Debian > > > packagers t

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-06 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 04/06/2017 08:01 PM, rob stone wrote: On Thu, 2017-04-06 at 15:58 -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote: On 04/06/2017 03:16 PM, rob stone wrote: Which is what has me confused. If you are using the postgresql- common system then the *.conf files should be in /etc/postgresql/version/cluster_name/.

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-06 Thread rob stone
On Thu, 2017-04-06 at 15:58 -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote: > On 04/06/2017 03:16 PM, rob stone wrote: > > > > > > Which is what has me confused. If you are using the postgresql- > common  > system then the *.conf files should be in  > /etc/postgresql/version/cluster_name/. > > Where exactly is P

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-06 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 04/06/2017 03:16 PM, rob stone wrote: On Wed, 2017-04-05 at 21:14 -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote: What repos are you using, the Debian or the PGDG one? I guess the question I should really ask is, are you using a repo or some other method to upgrade? Upgraded from standard Debian repos.

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-06 Thread rob stone
On Wed, 2017-04-05 at 21:14 -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote: > > What repos are you using, the Debian or the PGDG one? > > I guess the question I should really ask is, are you using a repo or  > some other method to upgrade? > > Upgraded from standard Debian repos. Nothing else was changed other

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-06 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: > Tom, > > * Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote: > > (But ... these statements are based on an assumption of out-of-the- > > box Postgres behavior. I would not exactly put it past the Debian > > packagers to have decided to change this for re

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-06 Thread Stephen Frost
Tom, * Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote: > (But ... these statements are based on an assumption of out-of-the- > box Postgres behavior. I would not exactly put it past the Debian > packagers to have decided to change this for reasons of their own, > and their track record of telling us about s

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-06 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 12:05:51AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > rob stone writes: > > Upgraded to version 9.6.2-2 and these are the log entries on start-up:- > > > 2017-04-05 08:03:29 AESTLOG:  test message did not get through on > > socket for statistics collector ... > (But ... these statements

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-05 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 04/05/2017 08:03 PM, rob stone wrote: Hello, Postgres is started via pg_ctl and NOT systemd. Below are the log entries when version 9.6.2-1 is started. 2017-04-04 07:15:27 AESTLOG: database system was shut down at 2017-04- 03 13:08:27 AEST 2017-04-04 07:15:28 AESTLOG: MultiXact member wra

Re: [GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-05 Thread Tom Lane
rob stone writes: > Upgraded to version 9.6.2-2 and these are the log entries on start-up:- > 2017-04-05 08:03:29 AESTLOG:  test message did not get through on > socket for statistics collector This is not something that would be affected by any Postgres setting; the stats collector always depen

[GENERAL] A change in the Debian install

2017-04-05 Thread rob stone
Hello, Postgres is started via pg_ctl and NOT systemd. Below are the log entries when version 9.6.2-1 is started. 2017-04-04 07:15:27 AESTLOG:  database system was shut down at 2017-04- 03 13:08:27 AEST 2017-04-04 07:15:28 AESTLOG:  MultiXact member wraparound protections are now enabled 2017-04-