Re: [GENERAL] Constraint Trigger's referenced_table

2007-12-22 Thread Richard Broersma Jr
--- On Sat, 12/22/07, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's always the source code: > src/backend/utils/adt/ri_triggers.c Thanks. I will do my best and give it a try :-) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?

Re: [GENERAL] Constraint Trigger's referenced_table

2007-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
Richard Broersma Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does any documentation exist that I could spend some time reading that > explains detail the cooperation between triggers on the two tables? There's always the source code: src/backend/utils/adt/ri_triggers.c regards, tom

Re: [GENERAL] Constraint Trigger's referenced_table

2007-12-22 Thread Richard Broersma Jr
--- On Sat, 12/22/07, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, the purpose is to support foreign-key triggers. FK > constraints are > implemented via cooperating triggers on the two tables, and > each trigger > has to be able to look at the other table. Sorry Tom, I guess I am still a bit co

Re: [GENERAL] Constraint Trigger's referenced_table

2007-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
Richard Broersma Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So is the purpose of knowing the reference_table OID, is that it helps to > generalize the logic of the CONSTRAINT TRIGGERS? No, the purpose is to support foreign-key triggers. FK constraints are implemented via cooperating triggers on the two ta

Re: [GENERAL] Constraint Trigger's referenced_table

2007-12-22 Thread Richard Broersma Jr
--- On Sat, 12/22/07, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It doesn't. That table OID is just stored for the > trigger function > to use if it wants to. I see. I was thinking that the FROM clause of the Constraint Trigger would allow tuple modifications from either the ON table or FROM table

Re: [GENERAL] Warm standby system - FATAL: the database system is starting up

2007-12-22 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Glyn Astill wrote: > What about the "postgres: startup process" ? Should this always be > visibile on a system reading WALs? Nobody has answered that yet. Yes. In fact it is the only process that reads WAL. -- Alvaro Herrerahttp://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreS

Re: [GENERAL] Warm standby system - FATAL: the database system is starting up

2007-12-22 Thread Glyn Astill
Hi Artis, I'm using debian. We discovered another postgres on the network was trying to connect. What about the "postgres: startup process" ? Should this always be visibile on a system reading WALs? Nobody has answered that yet. Glyn --- Artis Caune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glyn Astill wrot

Re: [GENERAL] installation on Mac OS X 10.5.1

2007-12-22 Thread Dave Page
> --- Original Message --- > From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dave Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 22/12/07, 19:21:21 > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] installation on Mac OS X 10.5.1 > > Yes, thanks for the reminder. I'm using this as a private in-house > database for about 5 people. If

Re: [GENERAL] Warm standby system - FATAL: the database system is starting up

2007-12-22 Thread Artis Caune
Glyn Astill wrote: > FATAL: the database system is starting up > FATAL: the database system is starting up > FATAL: the database system is starting up > > > As far as I know theres nothing else trying to connect. I think you are using FreeBSD, and default pg_ctl flags in rc.d contains "-w" o

Re: [GENERAL] Change of the data directory on Ubuntu 7.04

2007-12-22 Thread Marek Szczypek
On 20 Gru, 16:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Leonel Nunez") wrote: > you can leave the instalation as is , and create a tablespace in > /dane/postgresql and create your databases in the NEW tablespace > > take a look at > :http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/manage-ag-tablespaces.html > > Leone

[GENERAL] update pg question?

2007-12-22 Thread ivan.hou
how to update the pg version 8.1.3 to 8.1.10? should i backup and drop my database , or delete the /usr/local/pgsql directory? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/update-pg-question--tp14451672p14451672.html Sent from the PostgreSQL - general mailing list archive at Nabble.co

Re: [GENERAL] installation on Mac OS X 10.5.1

2007-12-22 Thread Chuck
At 7:08 PM + 12/22/07, Dave Page wrote: > --- Original Message --- From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 22/12/07, 18:51:09 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] installation on Mac OS X 10.5.1 Thanks. If I take this approach will it be straightforward to up

Re: [GENERAL] installation on Mac OS X 10.5.1

2007-12-22 Thread Dave Page
> --- Original Message --- > From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 22/12/07, 18:51:09 > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] installation on Mac OS X 10.5.1 > > Thanks. If I take this approach will it be straightforward to upgrade > from one beta to the next (ass

Re: [GENERAL] installation on Mac OS X 10.5.1

2007-12-22 Thread Chuck
At 11:03 AM + 12/22/07, Dave Page wrote: Chuck wrote: Hello, What is the best way to install PostgreSQL on Mac OS X 10.5.1? Or, perhaps I should ask is there a preferred way to PostgreSQL on Mac OS X? Well I can't say this (or any other) is a 'preferred' way, but you might want to try th

Re: [GENERAL] Constraint Trigger's referenced_table

2007-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
Richard Broersma Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How does a Constraint Trigger react to a referenced table when the constraint > is created implementing the FROM clause? It doesn't. That table OID is just stored for the trigger function to use if it wants to. regards, t

[GENERAL] WAL archive deletion methodology

2007-12-22 Thread Marinos Yannikos
Hi, when a warm standby "slave" database is being maintained, what is the best way to keep the WAL archive files from cluttering up the disk? According to http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/interactive/warm-standby.html it seems to me that one could either initiate periodic backups (stop PITR

Re: [GENERAL] Requirements for Constraint Trigger's Function

2007-12-22 Thread Richard Broersma Jr
--- On Sat, 12/22/07, Michael Glaesemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Should it return some sort of value? Should it raise > an exception? > > The latter. Thanks Michael! Regards, Richard Broersma Jr. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you

Re: [GENERAL] referential integrity and defaults, DB design or trick

2007-12-22 Thread Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:19:08 + Richard Huxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > > The default property (that is actually made by several fields) in > > my case is not completely homogeneous with the others, because it > > has a double meaning. > > It is cleaner to spl

Re: [GENERAL] self ordering list

2007-12-22 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Dec 21, 2007, at 15:19 , Bryan Wilkerson wrote: I've implemented in my model code but it has some deadlock issues and I really strongly have believed all along that this belongs in the db anyway. Implementing the above with triggers is a tricky problem because the trigger would key off

Re: [GENERAL] Requirements for Constraint Trigger's Function

2007-12-22 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Dec 21, 2007, at 13:12 , Richard Broersma Jr wrote: What is the proper way for the function of a constraint trigger to signal where or not referential integrity was compromised? Should it return some sort of value? Should it raise an exception? The latter. Michael Glaesemann grzm sees

Re: [GENERAL] installation on Mac OS X 10.5.1

2007-12-22 Thread Dave Page
Chuck wrote: Hello, What is the best way to install PostgreSQL on Mac OS X 10.5.1? Or, perhaps I should ask is there a preferred way to PostgreSQL on Mac OS X? Well I can't say this (or any other) is a 'preferred' way, but you might want to try the EnterpriseDB Postgres installer if you're w

Re: [GENERAL] installation on Mac OS X 10.5.1

2007-12-22 Thread Niklas Johansson
On 22 dec 2007, at 06.56, Chuck wrote: What is the best way to install PostgreSQL on Mac OS X 10.5.1? Or, perhaps I should ask is there a preferred way to PostgreSQL on Mac OS X? Is a disk image installer fine? Or, is it better to compile all the components? I've always installed from so