Re: [GENERAL] need for concrete info

2003-10-11 Thread Network Administrator
Quoting Dennis Gearon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've been using PG very lightly for quite awhile, (although I"ve read > through all but the programmer's manual once or twice). I loved when I > got to PG and it had Oracle like features, "A real database!". This is > after using MySQL, which I first

Re: [GENERAL] need for concrete info

2003-10-11 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 05:48:23PM -0700, Dennis Gearon wrote: > projects.) I want to use as my main argument, the fact (at this time, > only from my previous usage), that MySQL really doesn't have foreign > keys or record locking, and Postgres does. Define "really". Certainly, for some cases,

Re: [GENERAL] [Cygwin] Postgresql 7.3.4 Installation Problem

2003-10-11 Thread Jason Tishler
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 10:11:49PM +0100, NK wrote: > Trying to install Postgresql 7.3.4 using the Cygwin(the last > version), I followed all the instructions. Why don't you use the pre-built Postgresql package that is part of the standard Cygwin distribution? > After typing the "" ./configure

[GENERAL] need for concrete info

2003-10-11 Thread Dennis Gearon
I've been using PG very lightly for quite awhile, (although I"ve read through all but the programmer's manual once or twice). I loved when I got to PG and it had Oracle like features, "A real database!". This is after using MySQL, which I first though, "I'm programming a website off a simple, e

Re: Redhat RPMs (Was: [GENERAL] Debian experimental packages

2003-10-11 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 11:17:53PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > I haven't got any further than this, but I wonder if this is something > that would be useful to the whole project and not just to the > distributions. Any comments? None except that this is more or less how we manage multiple inst

[GENERAL] [Cygwin] Postgresql 7.3.4 Installation Problem

2003-10-11 Thread NK
Trying to install Postgresql 7.3.4  using the Cygwin(the last version) , I followed all the instructions. After typing the  "" ./configure "" command, I typed "" make "" (i have installed the GNU make 8 ) but after the build-process the result was not "All of Postgresql is successfully made,Ready

Re: [GENERAL] log_duration and \timing times repeatably much higher than "Total runtime" from explain analyze

2003-10-11 Thread Greg Stark
Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What's really strange is that some other > > queries perform fine but this one and a few others reliably takes this long > > and behaves this way under explain analyze. It's as if there's something > > specific abou

Re: [GENERAL] Response from MySql AB (Re: Humor me: Postgresql vs.

2003-10-11 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") writes: > my personal question is how well any of this would even stand up in > a court of law, or how would you enforce it? If you get a threatening letter in the mail with all sorts of legal verbiage such that you have to pay for a lawyer to interpret it, t

Re: [GENERAL] Humor me: Postgresql vs. MySql (esp. licensing)

2003-10-11 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Bartlett) writes: > However, the reason the industry switched to relational databases > was that they cared more that they had consistent data that worked > with multiple applications that was able to guarantee data integrity > (i.e. - support for views, constraints, and

[GENERAL] Procedure for adding a column

2003-10-11 Thread David Shadovitz
I need to add a column to a table. This table holds several thousand records, has several indexes, and serves as the parent table to a few child tables. When I've done this in the past, it has taken quite a long time for the ALTER TABLE command to complete. So, what is the correct procedure for

Re: [GENERAL] log_duration and \timing times repeatably much higher than "Total runtime" from explain analyze

2003-10-11 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's really strange is that some other > queries perform fine but this one and a few others reliably takes this long > and behaves this way under explain analyze. It's as if there's something > specific about this query that triggers the delay. You haven'

Re: [GENERAL] Procedure for adding a column

2003-10-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 11:05, David Shadovitz wrote: > I need to add a column to a table. This table holds several thousand > records, has several indexes, and serves as the parent table to a few > child tables. > > When I've done this in the past, it has taken quite a long time for > the ALTER TA

Re: [GENERAL] log_duration and \timing times repeatably much higher

2003-10-11 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 11:22:36AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > -- Start of PGP signed section. > > Planning time? > > Uh, I thought the actual number reported by EXPLAIN ANALYZE includes > parse/plan times, but now that you mention it, if it is timing things > ins

Re: [GENERAL] Response from MySql AB (Re: Humor me: Postgresql vs.

2003-10-11 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Dann Corbit") writes: >> That's true of just about any software license. > > Where is the risk with a Berkeley style license? ... That AT&T might sue you for infringing on their UNIX code. That this actually happened (albeit a long, long time ago) proves that it is a risk th

Re: [GENERAL] Partial indices...

2003-10-11 Thread Tom Lane
Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's very strange. Not really. In the dummy example, the two indexes are exactly the same size and so there is no reason for the planner to prefer one over the other. (Note that the two plans have exactly the same estimated cost.) In a real