Re: [GENERAL] Postmaster starting error

2000-01-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
Rahul Ravindrudu wrote: > >Hi, > I have downloaded the postgres version 6.5.3 . My m/c is redhat linux 6.0 >. > Postgres compiles without any error. I then initialize the database using > initdb. But when i start the postmaster i get the following error message >. >

Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

2000-01-06 Thread Differentiated Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd.
Hi, I had posted a message yesterday on 4 things which bugged me about postgres while running a 24x7 app. This discussion has degenrated into a discussion on vacuum. Now here is a person (Michael), who wants help to decide whether postgres is the right choice or not. It would be nice to help him.

[GENERAL] Postmaster starting error

2000-01-06 Thread Rahul Ravindrudu
Hi, I have downloaded the postgres version 6.5.3 . My m/c is redhat linux 6.0. Postgres compiles without any error. I then initialize the database using initdb. But when i start the postmaster i get the following error message. Database system in directory /tmp/pgsql/data is not compat

Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks (Vacuum)

2000-01-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
> While on the subject of vacuum. I wonder if > Tom's time will be better utilized at figuring out how to > get rid of vacuum all together rather than trying to fix > it. Simply have that functionality replaced with a more > modern way of data management and query optimization. > That command was

Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks (Vacuum)

2000-01-06 Thread Rudy Gireyev
While on the subject of vacuum. I wonder if Tom's time will be better utilized at figuring out how to get rid of vacuum all together rather than trying to fix it. Simply have that functionality replaced with a more modern way of data management and query optimization. That command was nothing but

RE: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

2000-01-06 Thread Dustin Sallings
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Culberson, Philip wrote: This is a considerable amount faster. I never thought about the indices getting hit here. Thanks a lot. # In his very insightful post last week, Mike Mascari pointed out that, on # tables with heavy insert/updates, it was much faster to drop

[GENERAL] trigger problem?

2000-01-06 Thread Oren Teich
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:15 PM I'm using the fti function that is included with the source, and seem to have run into a problem with the trigger call. I have a full text index with only around 556645 entries

Re: [GENERAL] New Search Engine ... UdmSearch

2000-01-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Ed Loehr wrote: > I said: "There aren't any results for pgsql..." > > The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > ... and the database is just being populated right now, and ... > > D'oh!!! Read more carefully! My apologies for the brain-dead spam... ya, still playing with things..

RE: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

2000-01-06 Thread Culberson, Philip
In his very insightful post last week, Mike Mascari pointed out that, on tables with heavy insert/updates, it was much faster to drop the index, vacuum analyze, and then rebuild the index. Maybe in vacuum there is a specific inefficiency in what Mike coined "defragment"ing indexes. [Snip] 8. No

Re: [GENERAL] New Search Engine ... UdmSearch

2000-01-06 Thread Ed Loehr
I said: "There aren't any results for pgsql..." The Hermit Hacker wrote: > ... and the database is just being populated right now, and ... D'oh!!! Read more carefully! My apologies for the brain-dead spam...

[GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] New Search Engine ... UdmSearch

2000-01-06 Thread Ed Loehr
Ed Loehr wrote: > The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > Well, we've finally gotten what seems to be a working version of this > > going, and, so far, I'm quite impressed... > > > > If you go to http://www.postgresql.org/cgi/search.cgi (URL to change), you > > can see it in action. > > Site-wide search f

[GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] New Search Engine ... UdmSearch

2000-01-06 Thread Ed Loehr
The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Well, we've finally gotten what seems to be a working version of this > going, and, so far, I'm quite impressed... > > If you go to http://www.postgresql.org/cgi/search.cgi (URL to change), you > can see it in action. Site-wide search for pgsql yielded no results momen

Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

2000-01-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Untrue, vacuum is *extremely* important for updating statistics. > If you have a lot of data in a table, and you have never vacuumed, you > might as well not have any indices. It'd be nice if you could seperate > the stat update from the storage reclaim. Actually, it'd be nice if you > c

Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

2000-01-06 Thread Dustin Sallings
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, The Hermit Hacker wrote: # Okay, my understanding is that a vacuum does a 'cleanup', while a vacuum # analyze does a cleanup *and* stats... That may be correct, but the stats without a cleanup would be a nice option. :) That would give me the ability to update my s

Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

2000-01-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Dustin Sallings wrote: > Untrue, vacuum is *extremely* important for updating statistics. > If you have a lot of data in a table, and you have never vacuumed, you > might as well not have any indices. It'd be nice if you could seperate > the stat update from the storage

Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

2000-01-06 Thread Dustin Sallings
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, The Hermit Hacker wrote: # > d) Postgres manual recommends a nightly vacuum. I read this also a bit # > late. This is equivalent of rebuild database. While this is in # > progress all other clients wait for vacuum release locks. This is # > really a handicap for a 24x7 app. #

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres object orientation

2000-01-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Subsidiary question : why is mySQL excluded from RDBMS comparison on postgress > www site ? beceause it doesn't support key features in an RDBMS, namely transactions, and, wiht transcations, rollbacks...

[GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] New Search Engine ... UdmSearch

2000-01-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Oleg Broytmann wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > So far, from what i've seen, its a nice tool ... I like the fact that > > there is no such thing as "Search downtime", since the indexer can run > > while ppl are seaching. With ht/Dig, while it was inde

[GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] New Search Engine ... UdmSearch

2000-01-06 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > So far, from what i've seen, its a nice tool ... I like the fact that > there is no such thing as "Search downtime", since the indexer can run > while ppl are seaching. With ht/Dig, while it was indexing, the databases > were down and you couldn't se

[GENERAL] New Search Engine ... UdmSearch

2000-01-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Well, we've finally gotten what seems to be a working version of this going, and, so far, I'm quite impressed... If you go to http://www.postgresql.org/cgi/search.cgi (URL to change), you can see it in action. The WebMaster still has to do formatting work on it, and link it into the main site,

[GENERAL] Trouble getting large objects

2000-01-06 Thread Vegeta
I have a PostgreSQL 6.4.2 database running on SuSE Linux 6.1 I am trying to get a Large Object using the JDBC driver extensions for large objects. When I call the read method it reads the data correctly, but it closes the backend, so all the client connections to the server are broken. I tried us

Re: [GENERAL] \dt command display no table

2000-01-06 Thread Frank Miles
Dear Dark: If you do a '\l', do you see your database? Are you connected to it? (if not, use \connect ...). Probably not it, but it's worth checking the obvious first. -frank On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Dark-Emperor wrote: > i have created a database with one table to

[GENERAL] Postgres object orientation

2000-01-06 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Hi. Some questions on object-orientation of Postgress: Firstly, is there any possibility of using directly a class name as a type for another class attribute, without using an explicit key linking, as in a full ODBMS ? For example : CREATE writers(name TEXT) CREATE books(authors writers[]) Secondl

Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

2000-01-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Differentiated Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd. wrote: > b) There are quite a few things which you'd take for granted in other DBs > which postgres does not have. Quite late in the day I was shocked to find > that postgres does not have roll-forward transaction logging. They have

Re: [GENERAL] Benchmarks

2000-01-06 Thread Differentiated Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd.
Hi, It was good that I have chanced upon your mail. I'm currently implementing a very high performance reliability application using postgres. I'm risking lots of debate and criticism on what I have to say. This is based on practical experience. I have decent experience is using DB2 and a reason