believe you when you say "they say that ..." but I truly doubt that
GDPR intended to make data processing fully impractical.
(I work in the medical field)
Karsten
> I believe you when you say "they say that ..." but I truly doubt that
> GDPR intended to make data processing fully impractical.
>
> (I work in the medical field)
In Germany, that is, which usually takes things to the
extreme, for better or worse.
Karsten
What Andrea Moreno's client seems to think is required by
GDPR is clearly bogus -- it would render illegal any and all
DICOM images existing today, because they contain
programmatically easily processable personally identifying
data right inside the clinical data.
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ckups which should free up space in the old tablespace.
Then take backups of and move the remaining databases,
perhaps one by one.
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QL command
select pg_verify_checksums(object);
on the horizon, right ?
So, for the time being, my only option would be to include a
pg_dump step of the template before cloning it ?
Thanks for insights shared,
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ed disk.
Move the tablespace when requirements ask for deletion.
Wipe the storage medium after moving the tablespace.
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source or suitable
server logs and compare queries between runs with/without
said options ?
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Dear Adrian,
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 08:02:32AM -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> On 6/6/19 6:50 AM, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> > The current canonical solution (?) for verifying checksums in
> > an existing database is, to may understanding, to pg_dump it
> > (
Dear Tom,
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:41:36AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> On 6/6/19 6:50 AM, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> >> The current canonical solution (?) for verifying checksums in
> >> an existing database is, to may understanding, to pg_dump it
> >> (to /dev/nul
database cloning would
reveal the corruption before it got cloned.
Does that make sense ?
Karsten
fields as well
> (if relevant).
A specifig knob for "sensitive data" cannot be supplied by
PostgreSQL because it cannot know beforehand what information
will be considered sensitive under a given, future, usage
scenario.
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rt of sitting tight-and-mum and not reflect
much of *anything* beyond "error". And even that can be a
side channel.
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question basically boils down to "Given a
rogue/dumb app, and a DBA who neglected his job, is it PG's
business (or even within its possibilities) to mop up ?"
I'd be inclined to say No.
I would agree it is not entirely trivial to accept
that resolve, though.
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%c - session ID
%l - in-session log line idx
%e - SQLSTATE
would probably suffice if sent to the client, given it is
logged in the server log.
(not that I suggest any such thing as I certainly lack the
skills to provide a patch)
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tionable assumptions the app thinks it
needs -- if at all logically possible
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base side or can I just go on running the app as is.
>
> Nothing will break on the database size.
We don't know. There may be functions in triggers or for
direct use which rely on the assumption that it be 60 chars
max.
PostgreSQL itself won't care, that much holds.
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:10:55PM +0200, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> > Karl Martin Skoldebrand schrieb am 03.07.2019 um 13:30:
> > > Now, we have a bug in another application that prevents an automatic
> > > tool to enter certain users in the database. The organisational f
unless* one forces a different order on the
outer query. Which in turn would defeat the purpose as then
the outer query *does* have an explicit ordering...
IMO you need to either rewrite the query or look to MySQL for
more detailed help. Probably the former, regardless of the
latter.
Best,
Kars
sible*
to find a dataset (of any size) which *reliably* demonstrates
the ordering mismatch.
To my understanding -- since the outer query *can* (per
happenstance) return rows in the order of the subquery's
ORDER BY it is not possible to reliably demonstrate that it
won't, is it ?
Karste
have any relevant email discussion?
AFAIR the consensus was that Python cannot really be (made to be) trusted
in the PG sense which is why plpython/trusted was *removed*.
Karsten
n INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE if
auto_explain.log_analyze is TRUE ?
If not how so ?
(I guess it would have to run a dance of "BEGIN; EXPLAIN ANALYZE ...;
ROLLBACK;" just
before any query is being run.)
Thanks,
Karsten
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 9:29 AM Karsten Hilbert
> mailto:karsten.hilb...@gmx.net]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/auto-explain.html[https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/auto-explain.html]
>>
>> don't explicitel
uided by psql discarding (?) query results (the rows)
while displaying EXPLAIN output only.
The auto_explain docs might perhaps still benefit from a more
explicit hint towards write query side effects.
Karsten
ng pointed out: that
auto_explain *doesn't* suffer from plain EXPLAIN write-query
"side effects" because it instruments normally-run queries
and just outputs to the log extra information (the plans).
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might be of help
Karsten
set default_transaction_read_only can help
Karsten
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. August 2023 um 14:38 Uhr
Von: "Durumdara"
An: "Postgres General"
Betreff: Role for just read the data + avoid CREATE / ALTER / DROP
Dear Members!
Normally we use the "db owner"
ons need to be created in the caching database before we can
> use them, while we have several environments where they would apply (DEV,
> pre-PROD, PROD).
Would a function that dispatches its calls to a suitable array of hard-coded
functions based on an IN parameter help any ?
Karsten
d-coded
> functions based on an IN parameter help any ?
Without testing the idea - could it even generate the hardcoded function as
needed, based on the parameter, and then run it ?
Karsten
Am Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 05:53:14PM -0500 schrieb Ron Johnson:
> *No,* that's a technology problem. What is the purpose of storing them
> back in the database using psql?
Or even the end goal to be achieved by that ?
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> I am currently using PostgreSQL 15 and I am trying to create a nested
> function with the following structure:
...
> However, I get an error
What *is* the error ?
Karsten
ata,
because interleaving data may have been inserting while the
user inspected the first batch of results.
A "second page" is only defined in terms of "what the original
query returned on the first run".
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ld be stressed that the binaries of
the later version (16 in OPs case) should be used to run the
upgrade, right ?
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imens /
schedules thereof involving a whole lot more columns, of
course, which should not be relevant to the problem though)
Thanks for taking the time to read,
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e.html
:-) I knew I missed something. As Greg also pointed out
that is what I need.
Thanks !
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entity?
Rob, I'm sure there's something to be learned from that
suggestion the significance of which I don't grasp yet. Would
you mind expanding a bit ?
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ow with
> > detail table columns NULLed
> >
>
> A better way to do that is to just use a LEFT JOIN.
+1 except that I've got use for both parts of the UNION on
their own (they are both views themselves involving a bunch
of joins with yet other tables, 4 or 5 each or so ;-)
T
Am Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 07:25:11PM +0100 schrieb Karsten Hilbert:
> +1 except that I've got use for both parts of the UNION on
> their own (they are both views themselves involving a bunch
> of joins with yet other tables, 4 or 5 each or so ;-)
Just for kicks, attached find
ar 13 2023, 12:18:29) [GCC 12.2.0] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> for idx in [0,1,2,3]: print(idx)
...
0
1
2
3
>>>
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year of
college folks ?
However, let's refrain from discussing that _here_.
Thanks,
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tion sv_SE) ?
Experimentation seems to hint that way but I was unable to
confirm.
Thanks
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|| _rec.collname || ''"'';
EXCEPTION
WHEN undefined_object THEN RAISE NOTICE
''collation does not seem to exist (perhaps for the DB encoding ?)'';
END;
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ing operating system (ICU update, libc
update) -- one would have to live with outdated version
information in pg_collations short of dump/sed/restore or
some such ?
I'm pretty sure I am overlooking something.
Best,
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Am Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:53:31AM +0200 schrieb Laurenz Albe:
> On Fri, 2024-06-14 at 22:08 +0200, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> > Are collations per-database or per-cluster objects ?
>
> Each database has its own "pg_collation" catalog table.
>
> So they are local
base can be used as a template for
more databases, which can be create with an encoding
different from the template, it doesn't really make too much
sense to be able to remove even pg_collation entries.
So, DROP COLLATION is somewhat of a smoking gun pointed at my
foot :-)
Thanks,
Karsten
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Am Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 03:02:56PM +0200 schrieb Karsten Hilbert:
> I see, and since any database can be used as a template for
> more databases, which can be create with an encoding
> different from the template,
Proving myself wrong:
root@hermes:~/tmp# sudo -u postgres psql -e -f /t
behind the scenes which failed and thereby set the
open transaction to abort state ...
And, no, I can't reproduce :/
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04
> GB, while the same database on the standby side is 216 GB. Both are in sync
> with zero delay.
First thing that comes to my mind is different effect of
autovacuum between both clusters.
Best,
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Following which sending the data seems (intentionally?)
aborted by the server, which the other side likely reports as
loss-of-signal.
Also, where does the "imcomplete message from client"
originate from ?
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ot;
> > > 2021-04-23 05:55:23.593 CEST [2317] DETAIL: Kann Zeichenkettenpuffer mit
> > > 0 Bytes nicht um 1380986158 Bytes vergrößern.
"cannot extend 0-byte string buffer by 1380986158 bytes"
> > > 2021-04-23 05:55:23.593 CEST [2317] LOG: konnte Daten nicht an den
> > > Client senden: Datenübergabe unterbrochen (broken pipe)
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highlighted",
> "historical", type
Those three categories won't help much. I'm sure though you had
something specific in mind with them ?
Karsten
> The problem source is postgres telling me it cannot connect to the database
via TCP/IP
> but I can do so directly using psql:
via UNIX domain sockets.
That makes a difference. See pg_hba.conf.
Karsten
would seem the restore script lacks a
SET default_transaction_read_only TO 'off';
in the setup section after re-connecting to the DB following
the ALTER DATABASE section ?
Thanks,
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the dump does not contain the "on" setting (because, I
assume, it does not dump configuration of the server, but
content and properties of databases).
Still, thanks for thinking along.
Best,
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ter what the source of that was. I think it's probably not
> hard to construct scenarios where someone would really not be happy
> about such behavior.
Any chance pg_dump (and/or pg_restore) might gain an option
--ignore-read-only ? That way, PostgreSQL need not decide
for users.
Thank
Am Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 09:34:45PM +0200 schrieb Karsten Hilbert:
> Any chance pg_dump (and/or pg_restore) might gain an option
> --ignore-read-only ? That way, PostgreSQL need not decide
> for users.
Or, options --pre-dump-sql and -post-dump-sql ?
Users could then run setup/teardow
ble-deferrable "${_PG_HOST_ARG}"
"${_PG_PORT_ARG}" --username="${GM_DBO}" -f "${BACKUP_DATA_DIR}"
"${GM_DATABASE}" 2> /dev/null
And this is the restore:
sudo -u postgres pg_restore --verbose --create --dbname=template1
--exit-on-error -p ${GM_PORT} ${BACKUP}.dir/
Thanks,
Karsten
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to
skillfully emit
alter database ... default_transaction_read_only to 'on'
only after having emitted any data-loading statements or else
gain a --do-not-alter-database-to-read-only effectively
omitting said statement thereby allowing for a more elegant
treatment of the issue.
Best,
Karsten
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Am Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 11:39:46AM +0200 schrieb Karsten Hilbert:
> I would be happy to hope that pg_dump might
...
> gain a --do-not-alter-database-to-read-only
or even a --(pre|post)-dump-sql=(pre|post).sql allowing for
(here) temporarily altering a role to
default_transaction_read_only=
Am Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 08:09:03PM +0200 schrieb Matthias Apitz:
> The prototype is ready.
Nice. Now the elephant needs to fade into the background.
Karsten
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Deep packet inspection naively scanning for potential
fragments of bash scripts being transferred ?
Karsten
Am Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:32:09PM +0530 schrieb Ninad Shah:
> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 12:32:09 +0530
> From: Ninad Shah
> To: pgsql-general
> Subject: Issue with a query whil
> It seems like it would be so much more useful if the timestamp with
> time zone type actually stored the time zone in the record.
Which one ?
Karsten
ct candidate for a fully fleshed out,
exemplary composite type ?
(but, then, yes it would beg the question what the TZ field of
the composite is to actually mean...)
Karsten
zone information.
What would that TZ mean, exactly, especially in relation to the timestamp
itself ?
Would the timestamp be stored as that TZ ?
Karsten
> It's just that the phrase
> "timestamp with time zone" would seem to indicate the time zone is
> stored somewhere in there.
Now, I can fully agree with _that_ :-)
Karsten
he machine (towards user consumption) it gets
converted to whatever is desired.
UTC = UTF8
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ll referenced from table"
drop table if exists ... cascade;
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>
> -- original command was: psql -h some_host -p .
>
> >
> > Are you dumping in plain or custom format?
> >
>
> plain (SQL)
Run the dump from a bash script which pre-catenates (Is that
even a word ? it is now :) the command into the plain (SQL)
ou
Am Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 07:16:32PM +0100 schrieb Shaozhong SHI:
> That is interesting. Can errors be captured and saved as data with
> scripting?
Depends on what the script does.
If the script runs (or is written in) Python the canonical PG
driver (psycopg2/3) will give you such data.
K
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Sure, they are just a search engine's use away.
> Are there any examples on the web these days?
> That sounds brilliant.
:Am Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 07:44:41PM +0100 schrieb Shaozhong SHI
Hi David,
>Expected are as follows:
>Notemachine
>Sainsbury's bank.
Now, step two: generalize that exemplary definition.
Karsten
> Only the first letter of each word to be capitalised/uppercased.
The next step is to not top-post.
Then to keep the list involved if you wish further help.
Then, if you are intent on using regular expressions, look at
the PostgreSQL docs for regexp_replace.
Karsten
t, hopefully, not quite
there yet.
Karsten
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Am Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 05:45:37PM +0300 schrieb Dennis:
> Are there any scripts that we can check after the changes we made in the
> database code?
> In summary, are there any automatic post-development scripts before they
> come to the beta stage?
What do you want those script to d
? something like this
> select count(*) from regexp_matches('Great London', 'null|Great
> London|Information Centre|Department for Transport', 'g');
You seem to want to apply coalesce() judiciously.
Best,
Karsten
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rack of tables" ?
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t, mit der Ausnahme, dass die
> Person, die in die Beschwerde involviert ist, in ihrer
> Funktion im Komitee oder dem Core-Team vom Verfahren
> ausgeschlossen wird.
What happens if all members of the committee are impeached at once ?
> Die Komitee kann feststellen, dass ein Verstoß gegen
>
> 'The City of London, London' also has no occurrences of any repeated phrase.
>
> Anyone has got such a function to check out the number of occurrence of any
> repeated phrases?
For that to become answerable you may want to define what to
do when facing ambiguity.
Best,
Karsten
e ?
So far, we (I?) can't tell because you have yet to (computably) define "phrase".
Which may or may not solve the previous dilemma.
(Top-posting is not liked on this list, to my knowledge.)
Best,
Karsten
Am Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 08:35:06PM + schrieb Shaozhong SHI:
> Whatever. Can we try to build a regex for 'The City of London London
> Great London UK ' ?
Would you be so kind as do be more specific about that "we" ?
Best,
Karsten
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Am Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 11:29:50PM + schrieb Shaozhong SHI:
> How about knock unique words into discrete joint up strings? Then check
> whether there is any repeated words?
Does it work when you try ?
Karsten
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erence between going _beyond_ a standard and being _well
outside_ said standard.
Which do you propose ?
Karsten
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ument
"Suggestions for execution of the Policy" containing such
advice as you gave above. Other than that one might leave
things as they are.
> Thank you for your suggestions. These have been incorporated in the text
Thanks,
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hat helped my understanding !
Best regards,
Karsten
Am Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 01:27:56AM + schrieb Shaozhong SHI:
> Is there a way to automatically scan a table and report the format of data
> for each column?
pg_class
But you may want to rethink the approach given that you use Python.
Karsten
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a TextFile type I’d like to implement syntax like:
>
> (‘/home/me/a.txt’::TextFile).firstline
> (‘/home/me/a.txt’::TextFile).lastline
> (‘/home/me/a.txt’::TextFile).countlines()
> (‘/home/me/a.txt’::TextFile).size()
> (‘/home/me/a.txt’::TextFile).datemodified()
Off on a tangent but would file_fdw help in any way ?
Karsten
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Vick Khera writes:
> > Did the list software change? All my messages from here are not being
> properly auto-files by the filter I have set up.
>
> Yes - did you not see either of the "migration to pglister" messages?
> There's a summary of the
I would like to remind everyone that
a) we are all friends,
and b) we don't need to reply to everything.
Now for some humour
https://xkcd.com/386/ "someone is wrong on the internet"
Tail of Banana talk, just before Get me off your ... very strong language
https://youtu.be/eC9rmsI7dnw?t=1m32s
(I
VIEWs
column GRANTs
RLS
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Nothing wrong with lots of tables and data.
Don't impose any constraints on your problem you don't need to.
Like what are you backing up to?$400 for a 1T ssd or $80 fo a 2T usb3
spinny disk.
If you are backing up while the db is being updated, you need to make sure
updates are queued until t
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Alvaro Herrera
wrote:
> Carl Karsten wrote:
> > Nothing wrong with lots of tables and data.
> >
> > Don't impose any constraints on your problem you don't need to.
> >
> > Like what are you backing up to?$400 for a
On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 09:52:28PM +, Martin Mueller wrote:
> Are there rules for thumb for deciding when you can dump a
> whole database and when you’d be better off dumping groups of
> tables?
It seems to me we'd have to define the objective of "dumping" first ?
big deal.
In that case I would stick to pg_dump, perhaps with directory
format and then tarred and compressed, until you notice
actual problems (unbearable slowdown of the machine during
backup, running out of disk space).
My 2 cents,
Karsten
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ity at the end of some day.
> How can it be done?
Implement INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE/TRUNCATE triggers on all
tables and DDL triggers on CREATE, ALTER, DROP, SECURITY
LABEL, COMMENT, GRANT or REVOKE.
Karsten
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On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 01:51:59PM -0300, marcelo wrote:
> When pg_dump runs on a database, is it warranted that the log is fully
> impacted, or at least, taken into account for the dumping?
As per the second sentence in the Description section of the
Fine Manual.
Karsten
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didn't change will 'copy' almost instantly.
I think OP wants to minimize the time spent during shutdown,
not during the next day.
Karsten
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IEW or dynamic SQL but I am
> looking something different.
Can you explain why ?
One thing that comes to mind is complex user types.
Or columns of type table.
Karsten
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On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 05:42:28PM +, Graeme wrote:
> If the default port for v9.6 is 5433,
It is not.
> why does the utility pg_isready still
> default to searching for 5432?
Which is why.
Karsten
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and password pass as argument. Like in a configuration file it will be
> mentioned and in xyz.sh file will be access as $1 , $2
>
>
> What should be the equivalent shell script?
This rather sounds like a homework assignment.
What have you tried so far ?
Regards,
Karsten
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abu Kommi, reviewed at
> various
> times by Andreas Karlsson, Vaishnavi Prabakaran, and Robert Haas; further
> hacking by me. Discussion:
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> https://postgr.es/m/CAJrrPGcUurV0eWTeXODwsOYFN=ekq36t1s0ynfyunzsmrfd...@mail.gmail.com
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> https://git.postgresql.org/pg/commitdiff/b3f8401205afdaf63cb20dc316d44644c933d5a1
... am I right in assuming my use case (dumping/restoring
databases with default_transaction_read_only=True) should
still work without removing that setting beforehand ?
Thanks,
Karsten
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