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2 November 2017 at 14:19, Vick Khera wrote: > >> This sounds to me like you're going to run afoul of CAN-SPAM > unsubscribe rules. You should re-think this workflow. > > > CAN-SPAM only applies to commercial email, "the primary purpose of > > which is the commerc

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Geoff Winkless writes: > On 22 November 2017 at 14:19, Vick Khera wrote: >> This sounds to me like you're going to run afoul of CAN-SPAM unsubscribe >> rules. You should re-think this workflow. > CAN-SPAM only applies to commercial email, "the primary purpose

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account already in the system. > > > > It's possible to be subscribed to the PostgreSQL mailing lists without > > having a community account. If you find that you don't get an email > > after going through the 'reset password' link, try creating a new >

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On 22 November 2017 at 14:19, Vick Khera wrote: > > This sounds to me like you're going to run afoul of CAN-SPAM unsubscribe > rules. You should re-think this workflow. CAN-SPAM only applies to commercial email, "the primary purpose of which is the commercial advertisemen

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to be subscribed to the PostgreSQL mailing lists without > having a community account. If you find that you don't get an email > after going through the 'reset password' link, try creating a new > account instead. > This sounds to me like you're going to run afoul of CAN-SPAM unsubscribe rules. You should re-think this workflow.

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Greetings everyone, * Mike Sofen (mso...@runbox.com) wrote: > Confirmed, I did not get a reset email either. Also, I had subscribed to the > digest version and now I get individual emails - which is why I needed to > login, but my password no longer worked. Sigh. Mike I've replied to Mike di

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...@autouncle.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:06 AM To: Stephen Frost Cc: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: migrations (was Re: To all who wish to unsubscribe) The password reset form does not work. I do not get any reset emails when entering mine, so I can’t unsubscribe.

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The password reset form does not work. I do not get any reset emails when entering mine, so I can’t unsubscribe. > Den 22. nov. 2017 kl. 04.24 skrev Stephen Frost : > > Igor, > > * Igor Korot (ikoro...@gmail.com) wrote: >> Can anyone explain why? >> Why not do wha

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Igor, * Igor Korot (ikoro...@gmail.com) wrote: > Can anyone explain why? > Why not do what other ML do - provide the links in the footer? This has been explained multiple times in multiple ways, including at https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PGLister_Announce Please drop it. We won't be going ba

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they work. > > As far as missing , ‘unsubscribe’ in headers/titles, my totally unscientific > experience with a limited number of mailing lists (email, text, etc) gives me > the impression unsubscribe in header/title is by far the most common method > provided. Also seems simplest,

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On 22 November 2017 at 03:35, Tom Lane wrote: > Magnus Hagander writes: > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:14 PM, David G. Johnston < > > david.g.johns...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What would help the majority of readers is if a rule could be added that > >>

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:46:42AM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/21/2017 11:42 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > I am not sure if that is sarcasm but I think the reason is pretty self > > explanatory. -Hackers have all the people that understand how all this > > works, -general has all the peopl

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:05:37AM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > they did.   you must not have noticed it. I'm sorry I was misinformed, then. I'll look more carefully in my archives and the public ones. I apologise for suggesting that this was not properly announced. Best regards, A -- Andre

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I kind of agree with both. Personally, my strengths are data communication. Databases are frequent end points. Mailing lists? Have never had a need to work with them, so they’re in the, “don’t care” bucket so long as they work. As far as missing , ‘unsubscribe’ in headers/titles, my totally

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:57:32AM -0800, Alan Hodgson wrote: > That wouldn't help; DMARC policies are based on the From: header. This is why DKIM and DMARC are different, just to be clear. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@crankycanuck.ca

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > John R Pierce writes: > > On 11/21/2017 11:42 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> I am not sure if that is sarcasm but I think the reason is pretty self > >> explanatory. -Hackers have all the people that understand how all this > >> works, -general

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On 11/21/2017 12:02 PM, Tom Lane wrote: I'm not sure I believe it. People reading any database-oriented mailing list are going to be pretty tech-savvy, I'd think. Not to burn bytes but I think your view is narrow on this one. I am tech-savvy although I am certainly not a hacker. The only rea

Re: migrations (was Re: To all who wish to unsubscribe)

John R Pierce writes: > On 11/21/2017 11:42 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> I am not sure if that is sarcasm but I think the reason is pretty self >> explanatory. -Hackers have all the people that understand how all this >> works, -general has all the people that don't. > rotfl, and ain't that t

Re: migrations (was Re: To all who wish to unsubscribe)

On 11/21/2017 11:42 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: I am not sure if that is sarcasm but I think the reason is pretty self explanatory. -Hackers have all the people that understand how all this works, -general has all the people that don't. rotfl, and ain't that the truth. -- john r pierce, recy

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On 11/21/2017 11:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote: [ wanders away wondering why last week's migration of the hackers lists produced far less complaining... ] I am not sure if that is sarcasm but I think the reason is pretty self explanatory. -Hackers have all the people that understand how all this wor

Re: migrations (was Re: To all who wish to unsubscribe)

Magnus Hagander writes: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:14 PM, David G. Johnston < > david.g.johns...@gmail.com> wrote: >> What would help the majority of readers is if a rule could be added that >> keys off of the word "unsubscribe" (and maybe some other key p

Re: migrations (was Re: To all who wish to unsubscribe)

rst mail, and probably a couple of more, and only reacted once they saw there were "enough" emails coming through their filters. And yes, we definitely know that a nontrivial number of people did this type of filtering because they simply couldn't figure out how to unsubscribe using the

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Andrew Sullivan wrote: > That would change the body of the mail. Mail that is DKIM signed (or > worse conforms to DMARC) cannot be so changed, or it will fail > validation and will be bounced. The bouncing system is then doing the > correct thing, and yet it will create "excessive bounces" to th

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Greetings, * David G. Johnston (david.g.johns...@gmail.com) wrote: > What would help the majority of readers is if a rule could be added that > keys off of the word "unsubscribe" (and maybe some other key phrases) and > dumps it into a non-public moderation queue where requ

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have problems sending mail successfully > to the lists. Actually, the old software had a lot of warts and we wanted to be out of it. Not least the fact that it's been dead for over a decade now. (For one, the web interface to unsubscribe was terrible.) The pain is related to pglister on

Re: migrations (was Re: To all who wish to unsubscribe)

want to be kept informed will likely just react to whatever the new reality is when it comes to be. The email saying why it happened simply mollifies them when they ask why such a reaction was necessary. What would help the majority of readers is if a rule could be added that keys off of the word

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On 11/21/2017 10:59 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: All I, at least, was trying to say was that there were some of us who were entirely surprised, and I'm kind of amazed that a bunch of database people didn't announce a planned migration weeks in advance. they did.   you must not have noticed it.

Re: migrations (was Re: To all who wish to unsubscribe)

e posting anyway. > No, further announcements wouldn't have > helped with all the unsubscribe complaints, which is far-and-away the > biggest issue with these kinds of migrations. Yes, if we'd sent out > more emails about the migrations then maybe a few people who actually &g

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All, * Alan Hodgson (ahodg...@lists.simkin.ca) wrote: > On Tue, 2017-11-21 at 10:52 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > > it seems to *ME* like a simpler solution to the original problem > >   would have been to simply STRIP any DKIM out of the original > >   messages, and continue to munge

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Andrew, On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:44:48PM -0600, Igor Korot wrote: >> Why people who performed the change couldn't create a mail template >> where the "Subscribe/Unsubscribe" >> links wo

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On Tue, 2017-11-21 at 10:52 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > > > > > it seems to *ME* like a simpler solution to the original problem >   would have been to simply STRIP any DKIM out of the original >   messages, and continue to munge headers and footers like mail > list >  

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> On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 02:46:08PM -0800, Steve Atkins wrote: >> That's poor practice, for several reasons - replay attacks with added content >> and it being an extremely rare practice that's likely to trigger bugs in DKIM >> validation

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On 11/21/2017 10:39 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 02:46:08PM -0800, Steve Atkins wrote: That's poor practice, for several reasons - replay attacks with added content and it being an extremely rare practice that's likely to trigger bugs in DKIM validation are two. The latter

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Hi, On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:44:48PM -0600, Igor Korot wrote: > Why people who performed the change couldn't create a mail template > where the "Subscribe/Unsubscribe" > links would be visible at the bottom of the e-mail? That would change the body of the mail. Mail

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Greetings Igor, * Igor Korot (ikoro...@gmail.com) wrote: > I'm curious - what was the problem in the first place? Please review the details provided here: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PGLister_Announce They answer the questions you're asking. Thanks! Stephen signature.asc Description: D

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didn't read yet, > either. > > Maybe a two week heads up that some time in the future the mail is > going to change (the same announcement as was sent) would help? This is really all pointless. No, further announcements wouldn't have helped with all the unsubscribe complaints,

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Hi, I'm curious - what was the problem in the first place? Why people who performed the change couldn't create a mail template where the "Subscribe/Unsubscribe" links would be visible at the bottom of the e-mail? There has to be a way of doing this sort of things. Especially i

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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 02:46:08PM -0800, Steve Atkins wrote: > That's poor practice, for several reasons - replay attacks with added content > and it being an extremely rare practice that's likely to trigger bugs in DKIM > validation are two. The latter is the much bigger deal. > > It also doesn'

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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 08:40:08PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > Which is why the extra email was sent *after* the migration, to make sure > it would be the first one *not* hitting peoples filters, and thus have a > chance of being read even if the others weren't. That surely didn't work, sin

Nightmare? was unsubscribe

oticible, except for the avalanche of people sending emails subjected "unsubscribe". Who does that? Yeah, the unsubscribe link was missing from the emails, but it's easy enough to go back to the 10/27 email to get that link, or look it up in a search engine. I'm on more than 50 li

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t into a nightmare? > > Pls forgive rudeness, but IMHO, whoever made the "upgrade" should > manually take all the "unsubscribe" messages from archive and do that > "unsubscription" by hand instead of giving not always helpfull > gu

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Greetings Rafal and Craig, * Craig Ringer (cr...@2ndquadrant.com) wrote: > On 21 November 2017 at 15:17, Rafal Pietrak wrote: > > Pls forgive rudeness, but IMHO, whoever made the "upgrade" should > > manually take all the "unsubscribe" messages from archive

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a nightmare? >> >> Pls forgive rudeness, but IMHO, whoever made the "upgrade" should >> manually take all the "unsubscribe" messages from archive and do that >> "unsubscription" by hand instead of giving not always helpfull >> guidan

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rade" should > manually take all the "unsubscribe" messages from archive and do that > "unsubscription" by hand instead of giving not always helpfull > guidance. > So what makes you think that's not what they're doing? Note that the majority of

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a nightmare? Pls forgive rudeness, but IMHO, whoever made the "upgrade" should manually take all the "unsubscribe" messages from archive and do that "unsubscription" by hand instead of giving not always helpfull guidance.The list used to have a filter that b

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a nightmare? >> >> Pls forgive rudeness, but IMHO, whoever made the "upgrade" should >> manually take all the "unsubscribe" messages from archive and do that >> "unsubscription" by hand instead of giving not always helpfull >> guidan

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Pls forgive rudeness, but IMHO, whoever made the "upgrade" should manually take all the "unsubscribe" messages from archive and do that "unsubscription" by hand instead of giving not always helpfull guidance. The list used to have a filter that blocke

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rade" should > manually take all the "unsubscribe" messages from archive and do that > "unsubscription" by hand instead of giving not always helpfull > guidance. The list used to have a filter that blocked messages with "unsubscribe" in the subject or

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Hi all, Have anyone noticed, that last couple of days on the list, can become a nice example of HOWTO turn the best list on the planet into a nightmare? Pls forgive rudeness, but IMHO, whoever made the "upgrade" should manually take all the "unsubscribe" messages from

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On 11/20/2017 7:40 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Depending on what mail software you use, you might have to use some command like "View raw headers" or "View original message" to see commonly-hidden headers like List-Unsubscribe. in gmail, its Show Original, on the down-tick men

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.Hmm, yes, indeed. I tried to login to that site with my listserv account credentials, and that got me nowhere either. Also, I just checked this message too. Downloaded the raw message including headers. Search in text editor for string "List-Unsubscribe" and anything at all like it com

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that most subscribers to our lists haven't got one. The List-Unsubscribe link is supposed to work without needing a community account. It disturbs me that Ryan says he's not seeing one in traffic from the list. I certainly am getting one in all the mail I get from the new server. I wonder

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at got me a >> "failed" automatic email back. One other attempt, I couldn't find a list >> with exactly this name and tried the pgus-general unsubscribe, which >> failed. The third was something yet more convoluted. My email headers do >> not contain the string

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that got me a > "failed" automatic email back. One other attempt, I couldn't find a list > with exactly this name and tried the pgus-general unsubscribe, which > failed. The third was something yet more convoluted. My email headers do > not contain the string "List

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So my searches on the web all seemed to be somehow connecting me with the old majordomo2 system. I think that may have been the attempt that got me a "failed" automatic email back. One other attempt, I couldn't find a list with exactly this name and tried the pgus-general unsubscrib

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have you tried the link provided in the previous email? On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Ryan wrote: > Hi, > > All right, so not for lack of trying, I cannot figure out how to > unsubscribe. I've tried three different things, but they've either been > ineffective o

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Ryan writes: > All right, so not for lack of trying, I cannot figure out how to > unsubscribe. I've tried three different things, but they've either been > ineffective or result in me getting an automatic email that the attempt > failed. Kindly help? I enjoyed my dail

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? > There's a summary of the changes at > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PGLister_Announce > > Those looking to unsubscribe should also read that page. Sending > "unsubscribe" messages to the list will not accomplish anything > except to annoy the rest o

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Hi, All right, so not for lack of trying, I cannot figure out how to unsubscribe. I've tried three different things, but they've either been ineffective or result in me getting an automatic email that the attempt failed. Kindly help? I enjoyed my daily digest of PostgreSQL messages, bu

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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Amila Jayasooriya < amilajayasoor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please unsubscribe me from the list. > > Thanks and Regards > Amila Jayasooriya > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Ibram Remzi > wrote: > >> Please unsubscribe me fro

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Please unsubscribe me from the list. Thanks and Regards Amila Jayasooriya On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Ibram Remzi wrote: > Please unsubscribe me from the list. >

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tible and thus help avoid becoming classified as spammers, we can't mangle message content anymore, just like we can't mangle the Subject: line. Ugh, o.k. In principle, the List-Unsubscribe: headers that are now included in mailing list he

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On Mon, 2017-11-20 at 18:12 -0200, Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter wrote: > Seems that Thunderbird (latest stable version) doesn't understand > the unsubscribe header. > Or, perhaps, it is wrong. Or maybe you need an addon. -- Jan Claeys

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at >>> tells people what to do if they want to unsubscribe. Perhaps one >>> thing that could be done is a header (for a temporary time period) >>> that says: >>> The mailing list software of Postgresql.org has changed. Please see >>> this page on instruc

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On 2017-11-20 21:03, Tom Lane wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" writes: >> On 11/20/2017 11:40 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> One thing I would note is that there is no longer a footer that >> tells people what to do if they want to unsubscribe. Perhaps one >> thing

Re: [MESSAGE PUBLICITAIRE- VIGILANCE] RE: Unsubscribe

On 11/20/2017 1:42 PM, Keith wrote: The link to this simple form below is right at the top of the other link where it says "How to Subscribe or Unsubscribe, Fill out this form." https://www.postgresql.org/community/lists/subscribe/ that form is for the legacy system.  for the new

Re: To all who wish to unsubscribe

Greetings, * Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote: > In principle, the List-Unsubscribe: headers that are now included in > mailing list headers allow MUAs to offer convenient unsubscribe > buttons. Not sure how many of the people who are complaining use > mail agents that don&#

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Magnus Hagander wrote: > So do you have any suggestions for actually fixing that? Given that we have > more lists to migrate, if you can figure out a way to make those changes > without peoples filters not matching, we'd be happy to hear it.. I guess it's a bit late at this point, but in

Re: [MESSAGE PUBLICITAIRE- VIGILANCE] RE: Unsubscribe

The link to this simple form below is right at the top of the other link where it says "How to Subscribe or Unsubscribe, Fill out this form." https://www.postgresql.org/community/lists/subscribe/ On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Bennett Hitchcox-Lain wrote: > Yeah, that link i

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Yeah, that link is pretty much useless... The go to this other link for what you want, but then go to another link, and login, then go to. Why can I just put in my email and click unsubscribe. On Mon, Nov 20, 2017, 11:11 AM Jaimi McEntire wrote: > To all wanting to unsubscribe. Go here

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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:58 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/20/2017 12:49 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > >> Sigh, not surprised about gmail, its amazing how many .com's and .org's >> use it now. I'm not at ALL a fan of how the web client handles a bunch of >> stuff like replies, & hiding your own

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Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter wrote: > I've been affected also, in a minor way, because I used to receive digest  2 > or 3 times a day, and now I'm receiving every e-mail again. > This is, at least, annoying. > would be better to keep the user options when migrating from one software to > another

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On 11/20/2017 12:49 PM, John R Pierce wrote: Sigh, not surprised about gmail, its amazing how many .com's and .org's use it now.  I'm not at ALL a fan of how the web client handles a bunch of stuff like replies, & hiding your own messages from yourself. oh and my biggest gripe, gmail seems to

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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:49 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/20/2017 12:20 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > Not even remotely. People use gmail. See https://blog.hagander.net/ > mail-agents-in-the-postgresql-community-233/. > > > its rather hard to tell some of those colors apart on my monitor. >

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On 11/20/2017 12:20 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: Not even remotely. People use gmail. See https://blog.hagander.net/mail-agents-in-the-postgresql-community-233/ . its rather hard to tell some of those colors apart on my mon

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Me as well. Thanks Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Marek Przywara Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 3:07:49 PM To: pgsql-ad...@postgresql.org; pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; pgsql-gene...@postgresql.org Subject: Unsubscribe

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gents-in-the-postgresql-community-233/>. And gmail does automatically show an unsubscribe link on these mails. See attached screenshot for the mail from Jonathan earlier today as an example. Well Thunderbird is #2 ;) but yes I am aware that Gmail has the unsubscribe feature. Thanks!

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can't mangle the Subject: line. Ugh, o.k. In principle, the List-Unsubscribe: headers that are now included in mailing list headers allow MUAs to offer convenient unsubscribe buttons.  Not sure how many of the people who are complaining use mail agents that don't handle that. I use Th

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hera [mailto:vi...@khera.org] Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 10:58 AM To: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: To all who wish to unsubscribe Did the list software change? All my messages from here are not being properly auto-files by the filter I have set up. On Nov 20, 2017, at 13:48

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Please unsubscribe me from all PostgreSQL mailing lists. Best regards, Claudio 2017-11-20 18:07 GMT-02:00 Marek Przywara : > Please unsubscribe me from all PostgreSQL mailing lists. > > Best regards, > > Marek Przywara >

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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Magnus Hagander writes: > > Right. This is why you can send an emtil to say > > pgsql-general-unsubscr...@lists.postgresql.org to unsubscribe. > > Oh? First I've heard of that, and I do not see it mentioned on the >

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#x27;t mangle message content anymore, just like we >> can't mangle the Subject: line. >> > > Ugh, o.k. > >> In principle, the List-Unsubscribe: headers that are now included in >> mailing list headers allow MUAs to offer convenient unsubscribe >> buttons. No

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On 11/20/2017 12:07 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: I use Thunderbird which I imagine most people on the lists are using. I can't find where these would work to unsubscribe. In Thunderbird, ctrl-U shows the full headers, but the List-Unsubscribe links are NOT shown as hotlinks, so you ha

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On 11/20/2017 11:44 AM, Mengxuan Xia wrote: A common feature in modern Email client is to allow users to unsubscribe in one line. This works by sending a email titled "unsubscribe" to the listserv, which most listserv these days are able to understand and unsubscribe the user.

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On 11/20/2017 11:45 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Perhaps one thing that could be done is a header (for a temporary time period) that says: The mailing list software of Postgresql.org has changed. Please see this page on instructions on how to manage your subscription and filters. vast majorit

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Magnus Hagander writes: > Right. This is why you can send an emtil to say > pgsql-general-unsubscr...@lists.postgresql.org to unsubscribe. Oh? First I've heard of that, and I do not see it mentioned on the PGLister_Announce wiki page. It definitely should be.

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Em 20/11/2017 17:45, Joshua D. Drake escreveu: On 11/20/2017 11:40 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:     https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PGLister_Announce <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PGLister_Announce>     Those looking to unsubscribe should also read that page.  S

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, o.k. In principle, the List-Unsubscribe: headers that are now included in mailing list headers allow MUAs to offer convenient unsubscribe buttons. Not sure how many of the people who are complaining use mail agents that don't handle that. I use Thunderbird which I imagine most people on the lis

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would note is that there is no longer a footer that >> tells people what to do if they want to unsubscribe. Perhaps one thing that >> could be done is a header (for a temporary time period) that says: >> >> The mailing list software of Postgresql.org has changed. Please se

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"Joshua D. Drake" writes: > On 11/20/2017 11:40 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > One thing I would note is that there is no longer a footer > that tells people what to do if they want to unsubscribe. Perhaps one > thing that could be done is a header (for a temporary tim

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