Re: Publishing Postgres Manual as a book

2023-03-23 Thread Tom Lane
Siddharth Jain writes: > to follow up, does Postgres have any official legal contact person / email > address? i can't find any on the website. Typically, legal questions should be sent to the core team. (To clarify: although I am a core team member, my previous response was not speaking for cor

Re: Publishing Postgres Manual as a book

2023-03-23 Thread Siddharth Jain
to follow up, does Postgres have any official legal contact person / email address? i can't find any on the website. S. On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 8:46 AM Siddharth Jain wrote: > Thanks All. Appreciate your responses. > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:33 PM Tom Lane wrote: > >> Erik Wienhold writes:

Re: Seeming contradiction in 22.1

2023-03-23 Thread maja zaloznik
Thanks David, this is very helpful! I would have to agree with Tom, that while technically true, the text could be reworded. namely it was not obvious to me that i had used a 'packager' to install the clusters and therefore was doing something outside the purview of the postgres documentation. To

Re: Publishing Postgres Manual as a book

2023-03-23 Thread Siddharth Jain
Thanks All. Appreciate your responses. On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:33 PM Tom Lane wrote: > Erik Wienhold writes: > > On 23/03/2023 04:34 CET Ian Lawrence Barwick wrote: > >> Also not a lawyer, but the full sentence is: > > >>> Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its

Re: Seeming contradiction in 22.1

2023-03-23 Thread Tom Lane
"David G. Johnston" writes: > The root issue, IMO, is that all packagers have settled on the convention > of using Postgres for the superuser name, so if one only ever sees that, it > is easy to assume it is some kind of default of the software itself. In > the face of consistent evidence, people

Certificate authentication docs in multiple places

2023-03-23 Thread Steve Atkins
A couple of times recently I’ve been chatting with someone about using certificate authentication, and the docs they’ve found on it are the ones in section 21.12 (Client Authentication -> Certificate Authentication). But the useful documentation about how to set it up and use it is in section 1

Re: Seeming contradiction in 22.1

2023-03-23 Thread maja zaloznik
Thanks for your reply David, i think you are right about the natural way to interpret the text - although if that was the intention it could probably be worded more clearly e.g. by adding 'renamed' or 'instead' or both. My issue is that - at least as far as i can recall - the default superuser wa

Re: Seeming contradiction in 22.1

2023-03-23 Thread maja zaloznik
Thanks David, sorry for pushing this - I don't mean to imply what you say is not true, but would like to understand how it can be true and at the same time users like me are convinced otherwise. The internet is chock full of instructions and tutorials mentioning the default superuser is postgres,

Seeming contradiction in 22.1

2023-03-23 Thread David G. Johnston
On Thursday, March 23, 2023, maja zaloznik wrote: > > My point being that if what you say is true but runs counter to what > essentially all other instructions on the internet say, it would seem > prudent to mention this disparity and the reasons for it in the canonical > documentation, which wou