Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2017-05-19 6:30 AM, Michal Kozusznik wrote: On 19.5.2017 14:38, Tomek wrote: You must understand one thing - first You stop developing v3, than release feature stripped v4, than demand to report issue/feature request You already know it is missing... Maybe this news for You but people used th

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Michael Shapiro
FWIW -- the final release of PgAdmin 3 fixed an ssl issue which, at least for me, fixed the disconnects from the server.

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread jbiskofski
I think its a big improvement, but is still a little green. In a couple more versions were all gonna love it. On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Day, David wrote: > Ditto to MK's comment. > > Developers can somewhat tolerate this "alpha" state in pgadmin4. I would > never push/recommend pgadmi

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Day, David
Ditto to MK's comment. Developers can somewhat tolerate this "alpha" state in pgadmin4. I would never push/recommend pgadmin4 to our customers. Someone indicated pg4 get 20 compliments for every negative, I would offer there's 19 that simply decided it was not ready, and did not give your

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread George Weaver
> I seriously may go back to PostgreSQL 9.3 so that I can use pgAdmin III until I can wean myself off the tool. I've been using pgAdmin III V1.22 without issue on PostgreSQL 9.6 on several Windows OS's (7, 10, Server 2011, 2012). I download every version of pgAdmin 4, have a look, and then c

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Michal Kozusznik
On 19.5.2017 16:24, rich...@xentu.com wrote: On 2017-05-19 15:13, Michal Kozusznik wrote: It means you don't have to switch into pgAdmin4 just because you are using recent version of database. pgAdmin3 v1.22.2 supports pg9.6 (at least it doesn't throw exceptions for common tasks) MK On 19.5.201

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread richard
On 2017-05-19 15:13, Michal Kozusznik wrote: It means you don't have to switch into pgAdmin4 just because you are using recent version of database. pgAdmin3 v1.22.2 supports pg9.6 (at least it doesn't throw exceptions for common tasks) MK On 19.5.2017 15:45, rich...@xentu.com wrote: On 2017-05-

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Michal Kozusznik
It means you don't have to switch into pgAdmin4 just because you are using recent version of database. pgAdmin3 v1.22.2 supports pg9.6 (at least it doesn't throw exceptions for common tasks) MK On 19.5.2017 15:45, rich...@xentu.com wrote: On 2017-05-19 14:20, Adam Brusselback wrote: I serious

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread richard
On 2017-05-19 14:20, Adam Brusselback wrote: I seriously may go back to PostgreSQL 9.3 so that I can use pgAdmin III until I can wean myself off the tool. You don't have to revert your database version to use pgadmin III, the newest release works fine with Postgres 9.6, and there is also the Bi

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Michal Kozusznik
On 19.5.2017 14:38, Tomek wrote: You must understand one thing - first You stop developing v3, than release feature stripped v4, than demand to report issue/feature request You already know it is missing... Maybe this news for You but people used this software for more than 10 years - they got

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Karl Sinn
One thing I’m doing is launching the software. pgAdmin III launches and is ready to go in 3 seconds. pgAdmin 4 takes 20 seconds. The other thing I’m doing is expanding nodes in the Browser tree. When I expand the Ðatabases node under my server, pgAdmin 4 takes about 3.5 seconds to respond

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Adam Brusselback
> I seriously may go back to PostgreSQL 9.3 so that I can use pgAdmin III until I can wean myself off the tool. You don't have to revert your database version to use pgadmin III, the newest release works fine with Postgres 9.6, and there is also the BigSQL fork of pgadmin III which as far as I know

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Eric Hill
Ø Either way, I'm not going to lose sleep over it. This is something that a developer of software that people pay for would never say, even if we sometimes think it, because we value our customers. Ø You can't please everyone unfortunately but then a) it's free (despite being estimated at ov

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Tomek
19 maja 2017 12:24 - "Dave Page" : > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Tomek wrote: > >> You don't care what You users say about Your software??? That's a nice >> statement... > > Twisting my words is a great way to make your point. Kudos. >> Twisting... Saying "I'm not going to lose sleep ove

[pgadmin-support] pgAdmin 4 v1.5 Released!

2017-05-19 Thread Dave Page
The pgAdmin Development Team are pleased to announce the release of pgAdmin 4 version 1.5. This release of pgAdmin 4 includes over 20 bug fixes and improvements: Bug #2225: Object creation options are visible even if the object type is hidden Bug #2253: Download as CSV often doesn't do anything Bu

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Tomek wrote: >>> You don't care what You users say about Your software??? That's a nice >>> statement... >> >> Twisting my words is a great way to make your point. Kudos. > > Twisting... Saying "I'm not going to lose sleep over it" means what - in case > of some

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Tomek
19 maja 2017 10:04 - "Dave Page" : > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Tomek wrote: > >> 18 maja 2017 22:43 - "Dave Page" : > > On 18 May 2017, at 21:09, Eric Hill wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I don’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings or anything, but is it not obvious to >> everyone that pgAdmin >> 4 (

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Daniel Küppers
Am 19.05.2017 um 10:04 schrieb Dave Page: On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Tomek wrote: 18 maja 2017 22:43 - "Dave Page" : On 18 May 2017, at 21:09, Eric Hill wrote: Hey, I don’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings or anything, but is it not obvious to everyone that pgAdmin 4 (I have versio

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2017-05-18 6:27 PM, Melvin Davidson wrote: I have never heard of any other software program where options/features from a previous release were not included in the newest release. Oh really? Excluding features/options when making major new versions happens all the time. Look at a lot of

Re: [pgadmin-support] making me love pgAdmin III

2017-05-19 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Tomek wrote: > 18 maja 2017 22:43 - "Dave Page" : > >> On 18 May 2017, at 21:09, Eric Hill wrote: >> >>> Hey, >>> >>> I don’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings or anything, but is it not obvious >>> to everyone that pgAdmin >>> 4 (I have version 1.4) is bloody horre