On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Dave Rolsky wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Moritz Lenz wrote:
>
> I've planned to add such a module to the Perl 6 spec, but some comments
>> on #perl6 suggested it should be kept out of core to prevent bloat.
>> Still if the overall opinion is that Perl 6 should h
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> I think that having a standard, minimal API for this defined in core as a
>> Date role would be ideal.
>
>
> Agreed. In fact, I'd like to see DateTime be defined explicitly as a
> superset (subrole) of Date, with a method for extracting just
Am 12.04.2010 03:47, schrieb Dave Rolsky:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Moritz Lenz wrote:
I've planned to add such a module to the Perl 6 spec, but some comments
on #perl6 suggested it should be kept out of core to prevent bloat.
Still if the overall opinion is that Perl 6 should have such a module
out
Author: mberends
Date: 2010-04-12 13:01:15 +0200 (Mon, 12 Apr 2010)
New Revision: 30364
Modified:
docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library/Temporal.pod
Log:
[Temporal.pod] remove invalid markup that may have blocked updating of the HTML
version online, and minor cosmetic changes.
Modified: docs/P
Author: masak
Date: 2010-04-12 15:00:38 +0200 (Mon, 12 Apr 2010)
New Revision: 30369
Modified:
docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library/Numeric.pod
Log:
[S32/Numeric] removed method form of srand
Overwhelming consent on #perl6 about this.
Modified: docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library/Numeric.pod
=
Author: masak
Date: 2010-04-12 15:12:54 +0200 (Mon, 12 Apr 2010)
New Revision: 30370
Modified:
docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library/Temporal.pod
Log:
[S32/Temporal] replaced underscores with dashes in method names
Also decided to go with 'timezone' rather than 'time_zone' or 'time-zone',
for a
How are quarters defined? Where do(es) the extra day(s) go?
On Monday, April 12, 2010, wrote:
> Author: masak
> Date: 2010-04-12 15:12:54 +0200 (Mon, 12 Apr 2010)
> New Revision: 30370
>
> Modified:
> docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library/Temporal.pod
> Log:
> [S32/Temporal] replaced underscor
Am I the only one who sees a hyphen and thinks "binary minus"? Just
because the parser can disambiguate this use of it doesn't mean the
reader's brain can do so as easily.
(I assume we're talking about the same character, 0x2D, and not something
from further afield in the Unicode tables, right
Peter Scott wrote:
> Am I the only one who sees a hyphen and thinks "binary minus"? Just
> because the parser can disambiguate this use of it doesn't mean the
> reader's brain can do so as easily.
It's all a matter of practice.
Since variables begin with sigils, and you should put whitespace a
Darren Duncan wrote:
See http://perlcabal.org/syn/S02.html#Names for your answers.
Thanks for the link but nowhere in it does it state tha Perl 6 names are
case sensitive. The best the do is this, which implies it is but
doesn't state it.
"Other all-caps names are semi-reserved. We may add
masak wrote:
Modified:
docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library/Numeric.pod
Log:
[S32/Numeric] removed method form of srand
Overwhelming consent on #perl6 about this.
- multi method srand ( Real $seed: )
multi srand ( Real $seed = default_seed_algorithm())
Seed the generator C uses. C<$seed>
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Shawn H Corey wrote:
> Darren Duncan wrote:
>>
>> See http://perlcabal.org/syn/S02.html#Names for your answers.
>
> Thanks for the link but nowhere in it does it state tha Perl 6 names are
> case sensitive. The best the do is this, which implies it is but doesn't
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Dave Whipp wrote:
> 2a. If I spawn two threads (implicitly or explicitly), how do their RNGs
> interact? I.e. are C and C thread-safe?
>
I've noticed that this is a potentially-surprising source of lock contention
in Java - all threads share common RNG state, ac
Dave Whipp wrote:
> masak wrote:
>> Modified:
>>docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library/Numeric.pod
>> Log:
>> [S32/Numeric] removed method form of srand
>>
>> Overwhelming consent on #perl6 about this.
>>
>> - multi method srand ( Real $seed: )
>> multi srand ( Real $seed = default_seed_algori
Tangentially, I'm a little surprised there isn't a random stream
factory in the core. They're useful for reproducible testing. With a
global random number generator, even if you seed it, another module
can call "rand" and alter the sequence you get from your "rand" calls.
I think something like "sr
Moritz Lenz wrote:
1) A RNG class (don't really care what the name is, for now)
2) An instance of that in $*RAND (which you can temp())
3) rand() and srand() act on $*RAND
4) It should be easy to create instances of the RNG to use in your own
class.
The sounds reasonable. The one thing I'd add
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 07:24:37PM +0200, Moritz Lenz wrote:
: Dave Whipp wrote:
: > masak wrote:
: >> Modified:
: >>docs/Perl6/Spec/S32-setting-library/Numeric.pod
: >> Log:
: >> [S32/Numeric] removed method form of srand
: >>
: >> Overwhelming consent on #perl6 about this.
: >>
: >> - multi
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 03:47:18PM -0700, Darren Duncan wrote:
: Damian Conway wrote:
: >The relevant suggestion regarding hyphens vs underscores is:
: >
: >"...to allow both characters, but have them mean the same thing."
: >
: >That is, any isolated internal underscore can be replaced with an
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Shawn H Corey wrote:
> Matthew Walton wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Shawn H Corey
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, I'll ask again: Where in the official documentation does it state
>>> that
>>> Perl 6 names are case sensitive?
>>
>> I think it's more importa
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Larry Wall wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 03:47:18PM -0700, Darren Duncan wrote:
> :
> : I see that making underscores
> : and hyphens to be equivalent is akin to having case-insensitive
> : identifiers, where "Perl","PERL","perl" mean the same thing. Rather
>
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 11:23 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> The standard parser will likely be pointing out spelling errors and
> conjecturing emendations for near misses. Whole-program analysis can
> even do this for any method names that look wrongish. The difference
> between Acme-X and Acme_X is n
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Larry Wall wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 07:24:37PM +0200, Moritz Lenz wrote:
> : > 1. do all implementations of Perl6 generate the same sequence, given
> the
> : > same initial seed.
> :
> : I don't think they should. If you want that, use confuse a RNG with a
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