Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread Damian Conway
Aaron Sherman asked: > Should there be an explicit way to step this down to just parsing the bits > that are called out as pod? The original conception allowed for Pod to be independent of the interleaved language. That has now been supplanted by a model that views Pod as an integral part of Perl

Re: How can i contribute for perl 6 ?

2009-09-17 Thread Carl Mäsak
Timothy (>): >        I'd actually be in favour of Masak's post being copied to the site > (with attribution) and expanded, rather than just linked, if Carl is happy > with the idea. [...] I'd be honoured. In general, consider anything I write on use.perl to be cc-attr-licenced.

Re: How can i contribute for perl 6 ?

2009-09-17 Thread Moritz Lenz
Timothy S. Nelson wrote: > On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: > >> On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 19:49 +1000, Timothy S. Nelson wrote: >>> +1. I have a set of 7 bookmarks that load in tabs that I call my "Perl 6" >>> bookmarks. I load this group of tabs into a separate web browser window >>

Re: Cobra & Ioke Programming Languages

2009-09-17 Thread Raphael Descamps
> Also any thoughts on implementing Perl 6 on LLVM? Well, the planning is already under way... Parrot want to eventually use LLVM as one of the possible backend: http://wknight8111.blogspot.com/2009/09/first-steps-on-jit-overhaul.html At the moment, it is targeted for the 2.6 release: https://t

Re: How can i contribute for perl 6 ?

2009-09-17 Thread Saravanan T
Thanks everyone for sharing the links... Thought of working in porting Data::Dumper functionality in perl 6 .Seems like already there is ".perl" function which does the same.. and a monker "mberends" said there is a bug in circular references .. So i am thinking to get deep into the problem. Wa

Re: How can i contribute for perl 6 ?

2009-09-17 Thread Matthew Walton
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Saravanan T wrote: > Thanks everyone for sharing the links... > > Thought of working in porting Data::Dumper functionality in perl 6 .Seems > like already there is ".perl" function which does the same.. > and a monker "mberends" said there is a bug in circular refe

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread yary
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Damian Conway wrote: > Aaron Sherman asked: ... >> I'd very much like to establish that at default optimization levels for >> execution, this information is not guaranteed to be maintained past the >> creation of the AST. > > Unfortunately, it is. Perl 6 defines th

Re: Cobra & Ioke Programming Languages

2009-09-17 Thread yary
Matthew Walton wrote >Yes, Perl 6 does - it is not backwards compatible with Perl 5. That so? I thought Perl6 was supposed to recognize and execute perl5 code. That statement itself implies that perl6 and perl5 are different languages, and I'm not too interested in arguing over semantics. I am cur

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:12 -0700, yary wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Damian Conway wrote: > > Aaron Sherman asked: > ... > >> I'd very much like to establish that at default optimization levels for > >> execution, this information is not guaranteed to be maintained past the > >> creat

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread Damian Conway
yary asked: > Can some concept/implementation of $=POD lazyness only incur the > memory and performance hit on access? IANAImplementor, but I suspect that virtually all of the performance hit could be incurred at run-time, if it happened to be implemented that way. The memory hit too, if necessar

Announce: Rakudo Perl 6 development release #21 ("Seattle")

2009-09-17 Thread jerry gay
On behalf of the Rakudo development team, I'm pleased to announce the September 2009 development release of Rakudo Perl #21 "Seattle". Rakudo is an implementation of Perl 6 on the Parrot Virtual Machine [1]. The tarball for the September 2009 release is available from http://github.com/rakudo/rakud

Re: Cobra & Ioke Programming Languages

2009-09-17 Thread Matthew Walton
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:58 PM, yary wrote: > Matthew Walton wrote >>Yes, Perl 6 does - it is not backwards compatible with Perl 5. > > That so? I thought Perl6 was supposed to recognize and execute perl5 > code. That statement itself implies that perl6 and perl5 are different > languages, and I'

Re: Cobra & Ioke Programming Languages

2009-09-17 Thread Juan Madrigal
I'll take a look at web.pm and see I can get involved. Would be interesting to see if Catalyst is being ported over as well. I see Perl 6 really taking off if the tools for server side scripting/ web development get revamped to take on PHP's and Ruby's in terms of ease of use and deployment.

Re: S26 - The Next Generation

2009-09-17 Thread Jon Lang
Not actually S26; but closely related: should $=POD and .WHY be read-only? Also, should there be other Pod variables besides $=POD? If so, which ones? Back on the subject of S26: should declarator blocks and aliases be able to introspect the object with which they're associated? That is, should