Re: Unicode under Windows (was RE: Semantics of vector operations)

2004-01-30 Thread Rod Adams
Austin Hastings wrote: From: Rod Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Question in all this: What does one do when they have to _debug_ some code that was written with these lovely Unicode ops, all while stuck in an ASCII world? That's why I suggested a standard script for Unicode2Ascii be shi

calling functions/class methods

2004-01-30 Thread Ph. Marek
Hello everybody, first of all please forgive me if I'm using the wrong words - I'm not up to date about the (current) meanings of methods, functions, etc. I read the article http://www.cuj.com/documents/s=8042/cuj0002meyers/ There is stated (short version - read article for details): I

Re: calling functions/class methods

2004-01-30 Thread Luke Palmer
Ph. Marek writes: > Hello everybody, > > first of all please forgive me if I'm using the wrong words - I'm not up to > date about the (current) meanings of methods, functions, etc. > > > I read the article > http://www.cuj.com/documents/s=8042/cuj0002meyers/ > > There is stated (short ve

Re: Semantics of vector operations

2004-01-30 Thread Luke Palmer
Scott Walters writes: > On 0, Rod Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Also, isn't it a pain to type all these characters when they are not on > > your keyboard? As a predominately Win2k/XP user in the US, I see all > > these glyphs just fine,but having to remember Alt+0171 for a æ is going

Re: Semantics of vector operations

2004-01-30 Thread Luke Palmer
Luke Palmer writes: > Scott Walters writes: > > This would lend itself a P5 backport that did overload on its argument, too. If > > it found that the thing on the right hand side was also overloaded into the > > same class, it is could use a single iterator on both sides, otherwise it would > > tre

Re: OO inheritance in a hacker style

2004-01-30 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:54:18PM -0500, Austin Hastings wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jonathan Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Actually, no; roles don't _need_ "suppress" or "rename" options to > > disambiguate a conflict: the priority chain of "class methods, then role >

RE: OO inheritance in a hacker style

2004-01-30 Thread Austin Hastings
> -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Scott Duff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:54:18PM -0500, Austin Hastings wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jonathan Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Actually, no; roles don't _need_ "suppress" or "re

Re: OO inheritance in a hacker style

2004-01-30 Thread Luke Palmer
Austin Hastings writes: > > Hmm. The text and examples so far have been about methods and this > > seems to be about multi-methods. Correct me if I'm wrong ... > > You're wrong. Consider my example, where via single inheritance we reach a > "layered" list of methods, each of which replaces the pr

Re: Semantics of vector operations

2004-01-30 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 06:55:39AM -0700, Luke Palmer wrote: : Luke Palmer writes: : > Of course you mean "æinteracting withæ other correctly." :-) : : Grr! That ruined that joke! I'd better get this unicode thing figured : out before Perl 6 is released. : : Âinteracting with other correct

Re: Semantics of vector operations

2004-01-30 Thread Jonathan Lang
Luke Palmer wrote: > Scott Walters writes: > > Would it be possible to subclass things on the fly, returning a > > specialized object representing the argument that knew how to > > vectorize when asked to add? Aren't add, subtract, multiply, and so > > on, implemented as class methods in Perl 6,

RE: OO inheritance in a hacker style

2004-01-30 Thread Jonathan Lang
Austin Hastings wrote: > Jonathan Lang wrote: > > Actually, no; roles don't _need_ "suppress" or "rename" options to > > disambiguate a conflict: the priority chain of "class methods, then > > role methods, then inherited methods" provides all the tools that are > > _required_ to remove ambiguities

Re: Semantics of vector operations

2004-01-30 Thread Luke Palmer
Jonathan Lang writes: > Luke Palmer wrote: > > Scott Walters writes: > > > Would it be possible to subclass things on the fly, returning a > > > specialized object representing the argument that knew how to > > > vectorize when asked to add? Aren't add, subtract, multiply, and so > > > on, imple