Re: L2R/R2L syntax

2003-01-16 Thread Piers Cawley
Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr. Nobody) writes: >> Unicode operators in the core are a very, very, very, very, very, >> very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea. > > We've done that. Yeah, but not with quite so many 'very's. I think you'll find tha

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:50:57PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 12:05 AM + 1/16/03, Simon Cozens wrote: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: > >> Ah, that's a different question. Having Unicode synonyms may well be > >> considered reasonable thing > > > >Sounds like the good old day

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Austin Hastings
--- Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: > > Ah, that's a different question. Having Unicode synonyms may well > be > > considered reasonable thing > > Sounds like the good old days of trigraphs. It's very much like the good old days of trigraphs. Bu

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 8:08 AM -0800 1/16/03, Austin Hastings wrote: --- Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: > Ah, that's a different question. Having Unicode synonyms may well be > considered reasonable thing Sounds like the good old days of trigraphs. It's very

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And keyboards, don't forget keyboards. These pesky primitive ones we > have now would require a lot of shift-control-alt-meta-cokebottle key > sequences... And vt100 consoles ! There are still sysadmins that struggle with a buggy perl script, having r

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 2003-01-16 at 11:41:56, Dan Sugalski wrote: > And keyboards, don't forget keyboards. These pesky primitive ones we > have now would require a lot of shift-control-alt-meta-cokebottle key > sequences... Unicode may have thousands of characters, but how many of them do you think you'll use often

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Austin Hastings
--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 8:08 AM -0800 1/16/03, Austin Hastings wrote: > >--- Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: > >> > Ah, that's a different question. Having Unicode synonyms may > well > >> be > >> > considered reaso

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Mr. Nobody
--- Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: > > > Ah, that's a different question. Having Unicode synonyms may well > > be > > > considered reasonable thing > > > > Sounds like the good old days of trigra

RE: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Brent Dax
Mr. Nobody: # --- Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: # > It's very much like the good old days of trigraphs. But on the plus # > side, once all the losers get their fonts/xterms/editors # up-to-speed # > on extended character sets, the trigraphs will die a # forgotten death. # # How ab

RE: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Mr. Nobody
--- Brent Dax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr. Nobody: > # --- Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # > It's very much like the good old days of trigraphs. But on the plus > # > side, once all the losers get their fonts/xterms/editors > # up-to-speed > # > on extended character sets, the

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Michael Lazzaro
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 08:57 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote: On 2003-01-16 at 11:41:56, Dan Sugalski wrote: And keyboards, don't forget keyboards. These pesky primitive ones we have now would require a lot of shift-control-alt-meta-cokebottle key sequences... Unicode may have thousands of c

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Mark J. Reed
Glad to see someone heeded that warning about unrecognizable sarcasm; no danger of misinterpretation here . . . :) On 2003-01-16 at 10:01:04, Michael Lazzaro wrote: > Well, I don't know about anyone else, but *I'm* planning on making > many, many Unicode synonyms, to make my code shorter and more

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Mr. Nobody
--- Michael Lazzaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I don't know about anyone else, but *I'm* planning on making > many, many Unicode synonyms, to make my code shorter and more readable. > > For example, C is too long, so I want to just make it curly-f, > (ƒ). And C is even longer, so I'm g

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Mr. Nobody
--- "Mr. Nobody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Michael Lazzaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I don't know about anyone else, but *I'm* planning on making > > many, many Unicode synonyms, to make my code shorter and more readable. > > > > For example, C is too long, so I want to just mak

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr. Nobody) writes: > Argh, I just realized the original was probably sarcastic too. Now I look > like an idiot. Well, moreso than before. There has been more than a touch of sarcasm about nearly every post in this thread in the last two days. -- "So i get the chance to reread

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Austin Hastings
--- "Mr. Nobody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: > > > > Ah, that's a different question. Having Unicode synonyms may > well > > > be > > > > considered reason

Re: (AUTORESPONSE)Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Austin Hastings
Whoever is working for qlcomm.com tech support and subscribed from work should probably unsubscribe and use a personal account, unless your boss wants 20+ messages per day coming in to your corporate mailbox. --- Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Customer, > > Your query has

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Mr. Nobody
--- Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- "Mr. Nobody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes: > > > > > Ah, that's a different question. Having Uni

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Austin Hastings
--- "Mr. Nobody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [... Massive elision ...] > > > > Right now almost all of us are in that boat. And we're talking > about > > trigraph ops, like ~> and <~ and |~> and [+=] and whatever. As we > get > > better, more Unic

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Buddha Buck
[Note: I originally sent this to Mr. Nobody alone, but that wasn't my intent. I'm re-sending it here, where I wanted it to go in the first place. -- bmb] Mr. Nobody wrote: trigraphs are actually better, even if you are unicode capable. ~> is far easier to type than ctrl-u-15F9E2A01 or whate

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Buddha Buck
Buddha Buck wrote: Maybe, maybe not On my machine right now, it is very easy for me to type various accented letters, like a, e, etc, making words like resume (or is that resume) nearly as fast to type as the non-accented version resume. Hmmm, that's not what I wrote... On my machine, I

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:59:43PM -0500, Buddha Buck wrote: > Buddha Buck wrote: > > > > > >Maybe, maybe not On my machine right now, it is very easy for me to > >type various accented letters, like a, e, etc, making words like resume > >(or is that resume) nearly as fast to type as the non-a

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 10:07:13PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: > The headers I received make no mention of character set - does your mailer > mark the message in any way? If not, then STMP will assume it's good old > 7 bit ASCII Thus we are back to using uuencode :-) -Scott -- Jonathan Scott Du

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-16 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 2003-01-16 at 16:42:15, Buddha Buck wrote: > [Note: I originally sent this to Mr. Nobody alone, but that wasn't my > intent. I'm re-sending it here, where I wanted it to go in the first > place. -- bmb] This came in with a content type text/plain, charset=us-ascii. US-ASCII is by definition 7