Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Tim Bunce
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 02:49:07PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > I don't get it. > > The first and foremost duty of Perl 6 is to parse and execute Perl 6. > If it doesn't, it's not Perl 6. I will call this the Prime Directive. Great, but don't loose sight of the fact that a key feature of "

Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1

2001-04-17 Thread H . Merijn Brand
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:29:41 PDT, Jeff Okamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The > > timescales of corporations like Sun are not the same as those commonly > > encountered in the open software arena. > > Ditto for HP. Which is more extreme (HP9000/L1000, HP-UX 11.00 + March 2001 patches): % /u

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread John Porter
Tim Bunce wrote: > If the file doesn't start with Perl 6 thingy then > it's Perl 5. Period. To mandate the impossible is to mandate failure. "Nothing can parse perl like Perl." Why is that? > My reading of Larry's comments is that it won't be "in" our "new > beautiful code". [Umm, pride bef

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:23:56AM -0400, John Porter wrote: > "Nothing can parse perl like Perl." Just saying it doesn't make it true, you know. -- Keep the number of passes in a compiler to a minimum. -- D. Gries

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:16 AM 4/17/2001 +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: >On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 02:49:07PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > People seem to think that telling Perl 5 apart from Perl 6 is trivial. > >My reading of Larry's comments is that it will be _made_ trivial at the >file scope level. If the file doe

Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1

2001-04-17 Thread Jeff Okamoto
> > > The > > > timescales of corporations like Sun are not the same as those commonly > > > encountered in the open software arena. > > > > Ditto for HP. > > Which is more extreme (HP9000/L1000, HP-UX 11.00 + March 2001 patches): > > % /usr/contrib/bin/perl -v > > This is perl, version 4.0 >

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Larry Wall
Dan Sugalski writes: : At 10:16 AM 4/17/2001 +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: : >On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 02:49:07PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: : > > People seem to think that telling Perl 5 apart from Perl 6 is trivial. : > : >My reading of Larry's comments is that it will be _made_ trivial at the : >

Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)

2001-04-17 Thread Edward Peschko
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:23:56AM -0400, John Porter wrote: > Tim Bunce wrote: > > If the file doesn't start with Perl 6 thingy then > > it's Perl 5. Period. > > To mandate the impossible is to mandate failure. > > "Nothing can parse perl like Perl." > > Why is that? Because perl has a bunch