Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-05 Thread Bart Lateur
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 00:47:06 -0500, J. David Blackstone wrote: > As another example, at work we are in love with the $/ variable, >since we often deal in multi-line records delimited with control-Y's. >However, changing this variable affects _everything_, meaning modules >you want to use might

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-04 Thread William Setzer
Perl6 RFC Librarian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : : =head2 Disadvantages : : Literally none have been broached on the various C mailing lists. Potential disadvantage, depending on implementation: The loss of distinctiveness. Right now, when one sees a $ variable, they notice its specialness an

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-04 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Tom Christiansen, > >Has having $ and its riends caused trouble > >for you? > > Only embarrassment at explaining it. While I only use one ^Form (and I suspect that that is true of most programmers), I still remember the thrill at discovering that the one ^

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-04 Thread Tom Christiansen
>Has having $ and its riends caused trouble >for you? Only embarrassment at explaining it. --tom

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-04 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Tom Christiansen, > > If we were selecting dubious features to shoot (and I think we are), > then the fact that $^F and $ are the same is one I'd kill--by zapping > the latter, too. I'm afraid I couldn't argue very convincingly against it, though I'd be tru

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-04 Thread Bryan C . Warnock
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, Peter Scott wrote: > The punctuation versions do at least have the merit of i18n :-) I don't > see any "use French" scripts out there yet... > I had a tentative 'use Arabic;' module, but couldn't figure out how they'd say "setuid". (Plus, my Arabic skills have drastically

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-04 Thread Tom Christiansen
>Thus it was written in the epistle of Perl6 RFC Librarian, >> >> =head2 Disadvantages >> >> Literally none have been broached on the various C mailing lists. >Well, I'll take my shot at providing one: An at least %800 increase in the >characters used to make up these names. For quick hacks,

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-03 Thread J. David Blackstone
Before jumping in on this, keep in mind that Larry Wall has already stated his intent to just plain _eliminate_ many of these special variables. Most of them suffer from the "action-at-a-distance" problem, meaning you change something somewhere and unexpected changes occur elsewhere. For exa

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-03 Thread Peter Scott
At 12:26 AM 8/4/00 -0400, Ted Ashton wrote: >Thus it was written in the epistle of Perl6 RFC Librarian, > > > > =head2 Disadvantages > > > > Literally none have been broached on the various C mailing lists. > >Well, I'll take my shot at providing one: An at least %800 increase in the >characters

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-03 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Perl6 RFC Librarian, > > =head2 Disadvantages > > Literally none have been broached on the various C mailing lists. Well, I'll take my shot at providing one: An at least %800 increase in the characters used to make up these names. For quick hacks, this is