"Carl Mäsak" wrote:
> ] Oh, but it gets even better: it turns out they didn't really have to
> ] sneak in through native code anyway, at least as far as the JVM is
> ] concerned, since the JVM treats final variables as always writable
> to ] the class they're defined in! There's no special case fo
On 2008 May 17, at 4:10, Carl Mäsak wrote:
Whether we're risking the loss of important compiler optimizations by
allowing overriding of variable RO-ness is not for me to say, that's
up to the compiler writers around here. It seems to me you make it
sound worse than it really is, that optimizati
Me Here (>), Carl (>>), Me Here (>>>):
>> > What is the point of marking things readonly if you can turn it off?
>>
>> There are many possible reasons, I think.
>>
>> * The code that declares the variable readonly might not be available
>> to you (compiled to bytecode, fetched by RCP etc),
>> * or
"Carl Mäsak" wrote:
> > What is the point of marking things readonly if you can turn it off?
>
> There are many possible reasons, I think.
>
> * The code that declares the variable readonly might not be available
> to you (compiled to bytecode, fetched by RCP etc),
> * or it might be available b
On 2008 May 15, at 1:30, Me Here wrote:
"John M. Dlugosz" wrote:
no strong_type_check :rw
in scope can turn that off, in case you want to play dirty tricks.
What is the point of be able to mark things readonly if the compiler
does reject assignment attempts?
(assuming you meant "doesn't")
"Me Here" (>), John (>>), Carl (>>>), Patrick ():
>> >> But yes, I expect that it will be caught as
>> > > a compile-time error.
>> >>
>> >
>> > And do you agree it's reasonable to expect this of every compiler?
>>
>> I think that is the point of declared types. But, something like
>>
>> no s
"John M. Dlugosz" wrote:
> Carl Mäsak cmasak-at-gmail.com |Perl 6| wrote:
> > Pm (>):
> >
> > > In Rakudo's case, we just haven't implemented read-only traits
> > > on variables yet.
> >>
> >
> > Goodie. I guessed as much.
> >
> >
> >> But yes, I expect that it will be caught as
> > > a
Patrick R. Michaud pmichaud-at-pobox.com |Perl 6| wrote:
Reasonable to expect it, yes -- but whether or not this rises to the
level of being a "requirement in the spec" may be a different matter.
I could envision the possibility that some otherwise-very-capable
Perl 6 implementation might be bet
Patrick (>), Carl (>>), Patrick (>>>):
>> > But yes, I expect that it will be caught as
>> > a compile-time error.
>>
>> And do you agree it's reasonable to expect this of every compiler?
>
> Reasonable to expect it, yes -- but whether or not this rises to the
> level of being a "requirement in th
Carl Mäsak cmasak-at-gmail.com |Perl 6| wrote:
Pm (>):
In Rakudo's case, we just haven't implemented read-only traits
on variables yet.
Goodie. I guessed as much.
But yes, I expect that it will be caught as
a compile-time error.
And do you agree it's reasonable to expect t
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 05:09:31PM +0200, Carl Mäsak wrote:
> Pm (>):
> > In Rakudo's case, we just haven't implemented read-only traits
> > on variables yet.
>
> Goodie. I guessed as much.
>
> > But yes, I expect that it will be caught as
> > a compile-time error.
>
> And do you agree it's rea
Pm (>):
> In Rakudo's case, we just haven't implemented read-only traits
> on variables yet.
Goodie. I guessed as much.
> But yes, I expect that it will be caught as
> a compile-time error.
And do you agree it's reasonable to expect this of every compiler?
// Carl
On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 03:02:28PM +0200, Carl Mäsak wrote:
> TSa (>):
> > sub bar ($x)
> > {
> >$x = 3; # error, $x is readonly
> >foo($x); # error, could hit rw Str
> > }
>
> By the way, I hope it's possible to make the assignment `$x = 3` to
> the read-only variable $x a compile-time
HaloO,
Carl Mäsak wrote:
By the way, I hope it's possible to make the assignment `$x = 3` to
the read-only variable $x a compile-time error.
I hope so, too. The variable and its read-only constraint
is known at compile time and *not* dependend on the value
inside. How it came in there in the f
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