Re: .NET

2001-05-03 Thread John Barnette
Dave Storrs said: > On 3 May 2001, Ilya Martynov wrote: > > >> You can serialize/deserilize object with Storable > > >> > > >> $foo = new Bar > > >> store_fd $foo, \*SOCKET; > > >> > > >> and on the other end > > >> > > >> $foo = retrieve_fd \*SOCKET; > > >> $foo->bar; > > >> > > >> It will work i

Re: .NET

2001-05-03 Thread Dave Storrs
On 3 May 2001, Ilya Martynov wrote: > >> You can serialize/deserilize object with Storable > >> > >> $foo = new Bar > >> store_fd $foo, \*SOCKET; > >> > >> and on the other end > >> > >> $foo = retrieve_fd \*SOCKET; > >> $foo->bar; > >> > >> It will work if you have Bar module on both ends.

Re: .NET

2001-05-03 Thread Dave Storrs
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Dan Brian wrote: > Another snippet from the .NET whitepaper: > > > Everyone believes the Web will evolve, but for that evolution to be > truly empowering for developers, businesses, and consumers, a radical new > vision is needed. Microsoft's goal is to provide that vision

Re: .NET

2001-05-03 Thread Ilya Martynov
>> You can serialize/deserilize object with Storable >> >> $foo = new Bar >> store_fd $foo, \*SOCKET; >> >> and on the other end >> >> $foo = retrieve_fd \*SOCKET; >> $foo->bar; >> >> It will work if you have Bar module on both ends. DS> Right, but I want it to work if you don't... Then mayb

Re: .NET

2001-05-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:26:27PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > You are saying that the Clippy wasn't originally and truly annoying? :-) Annoying enough to spawn vigor! http://www.red-bean.com/~joelh/vigor/ -- Michael G. Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread John Porter
It's certainly a mistake to say "the goals of .NET", as if they were a monolithic whole. But the point is, some of the (technical) goals of .NET are worthy, if not the slightest bit original; and so it should not be a shame if some of Perl6's goals were collinear with them. And I hope that ends

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread Dan Brian
> "Don't Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You" > > http://joel.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$320 This is a really good article. The quotes from MS and Sun whitepapers are living proof that rarely are superior technical means being espoused. Superior sales are the more likely culprit, esp

RE: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread David Grove
> -Original Message- > From: Jarkko Hietaniemi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:26 PM > To: David Grove > Cc: Perl 6 Language Mailing List > Subject: Re: .NET > > > (still waiting > > for "something original for a change&

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:22:26PM -0400, David Grove wrote: > > > am seeing some similarities between some of the proposed goals of > > > Perl 6 and the .NET platform. > > > . . . many things in .NET have been discussed similarly here. > > > > That's because .NET attempts to address real-world is

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread David Grove
> > am seeing some similarities between some of the proposed goals of > > Perl 6 and the .NET platform. > > . . . many things in .NET have been discussed similarly here. > > That's because .NET attempts to address real-world issues. > The goals of .NET are not evil in and of themselves, you know.

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 09:30 PM 5/2/2001 +0400, Ilya Martynov wrote: >DS> At 12:54 PM 5/2/2001 -0400, John Porter wrote: > >> David Grove wrote: > >> > distributed objects, > >> > >> I don't recall discussion of this wrt perl6, frankly. > >DS> I've mumbled about it on and off. I'd like to be able to do: > >DS>$f

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread Ilya Martynov
DS> At 12:54 PM 5/2/2001 -0400, John Porter wrote: >> David Grove wrote: >> > distributed objects, >> >> I don't recall discussion of this wrt perl6, frankly. DS> I've mumbled about it on and off. I'd like to be able to do: DS>$foo = new Bar; DS>print SOCKET serialze($foo); DS> and on

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread John Porter
Dan Sugalski wrote: > I'd like to be able to do: >$foo = new Bar; >print SOCKET serialze($foo); > and on the other end do: >$foo = unserialize(); >$foo->bar(); I personally am a big fan of Obliq semantics. It's something I'd really like to see in perl. -- John Porter It's so my

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread Uri Guttman
> "DS" == Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DS> I've mumbled about it on and off. I'd like to be able to do: DS>$foo = new Bar; DS>print SOCKET serialze($foo); DS> and on the other end do: DS>$foo = unserialize(); DS>$foo->bar(); DS> I don't know that

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 12:54 PM 5/2/2001 -0400, John Porter wrote: >David Grove wrote: > > distributed objects, > >I don't recall discussion of this wrt perl6, frankly. I've mumbled about it on and off. I'd like to be able to do: $foo = new Bar; print SOCKET serialze($foo); and on the other end do: $foo

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread John Porter
David Grove wrote: > am seeing some similarities between some of the proposed goals of > Perl 6 and the .NET platform. > . . . many things in .NET have been discussed similarly here. That's because .NET attempts to address real-world issues. The goals of .NET are not evil in and of themselves, y

Re: .NET

2001-05-02 Thread Larry Wall
David Grove writes: : Larry, et. al.: Is this similarity on purpose? Yes, but only becase .NET is a VM, not because it's from MicroSoft. The basic goal is to have a Perl VM that can sit easily on other VMs, whether .NET's or Java's or our own. Another example of competing by cooperating, which

Re: Net::Ping problem

2000-09-06 Thread Tad McClellan
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 02:51:03PM +0200, Willy wrote: > Does anyone know how can i [snip] > How can i do?? You cannot do this in perl6 because perl6 does not yet exist. Please do not abuse this mailing list with off-topic questions. Thank you. -- Tad McClellan