Re: Periodic Table of the Operators, version 3

2009-02-16 Thread Richard Hainsworth
piece of work, really excellent! Richard Mark Lentczner wrote: Friends - Just a note to let you know that the third version of the Periodic Table of the Operators is complete: http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/periodic/ Thanks again to all those who helped me dive deep into perl6

Periodic Table of the Operators, version 3

2009-02-15 Thread Mark Lentczner
Friends - Just a note to let you know that the third version of the Periodic Table of the Operators is complete: http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/periodic/ Thanks again to all those who helped me dive deep into perl6. - MtnViewMark Mark Lentczner http://www.ozonehouse.com

FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-14 Thread Jared Rhine
[Rod == [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:10:34 -0500] Jared> I haven't yet seen an example presented where using a Unicode Jared> operator would save keystrokes, for instance. Rod> That depends entirely on how you plan to generate them. If you Rod> are relying on a special command in your

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-13 Thread Rod Adams
Jared Rhine wrote: I haven't yet seen an example presented where using a Unicode operator would save keystrokes, for instance. That depends entirely on how you plan to generate them. If you are relying on a special command in your editor of choice, yes, the ASCII equiv is fewer keystrokes. If, ho

FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-13 Thread Jared Rhine
[Pedro == [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:40:27 +0200] Pedro> What advantages have to use characters not in standard Pedro> keyboards? Flexibility. Stylistic choice. There is More Than One Way To Do It. Power. Expressiveness. Everything that makes Perl good. Pedro> Isn't it a little sc

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-13 Thread David Storrs
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 03:40:27AM +0200, Pedro Larroy wrote: > What advantages have to use characters not in standard keyboards? Isn't > it a little scary? Well, what do you consider a 'standard' keyboard? The zip operator/Yen sign probably appears on most keyboards in Japan, but on very few i

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-12 Thread Pedro Larroy
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 03:33:34PM +, Smylers wrote: > Gabriel Ebner writes: > > > Joe Gottman wrote: > > > > >The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥). > > > > How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? > > Probably the same way as those with US keyboards do -- US keybo

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-08 Thread Juerd
Tim Bunce skribis 2004-06-08 11:30 (+0100): > I can recommend PuTTY for windows. Secure, small[1], fast, featureful > and free: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ > [1] So small it easily fits on a floppy. I keep a copy on my USB memory drive. So small that even on modem lines, you

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-08 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Tue 08 Jun 2004 12:35, David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:52:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > > > But when I'm using a > > > terminal session,

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-08 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:52:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > > But when I'm using a > > terminal session, I have found that the only practical way of getting > > consistent behaviou

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-08 Thread Tim Bunce
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:52:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > > My console can be any of several platforms - in the last couple of weeks > it has been a Linux box, a Windows PC, a Mac, a Sun workstation, and a > real vt320 attached to a Sun. My mail sits on a hosted Linux box. To > read i

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-07 Thread David Cantrell
Mark J. Reed wrote: On 2004-06-07 at 21:33:03, David Cantrell wrote: This is what is so wrong about allowing unicode operators - yes, I don't need to write them, but if some other programmer writes one I have to be able to read it. And I can't. Well, for one thing, just because your email program

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-07 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 2004-06-07 at 21:33:03, David Cantrell wrote: > This is what is so wrong about allowing unicode operators - yes, I don't > need to write them, but if some other programmer writes one I have to be > able to read it. And I can't. Well, for one thing, just because your email program doesn't let

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-07 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 04:21:14PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: > Since you've added ? and ? to the list above, I'll add them as well: What's so hard to type about the question mark? And what's so significant that you added it twice? OK, so I know that you really meant to type and . This is wha

Re: [Poop-group] Perl 6 Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread David Nicol
So is he going to backport his representational ideography to the operators of perl 5.8? Darren Duncan wrote: Mark Lentczner has just (on May 26/28) created a useful/humerous graphical diagram of the 100+ operators in the Perl 6 language, designed to look like the periodic table of atomic element

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 2004-06-01 at 14:10:08, Paul Seamons wrote: > Or for the few Perl emacs people out there: > > C-x 8 Y > C-x 8 < > C-x 8 > I suspect there are more than a "few". I don't think there's anything constitutional about folks who like Emacs that prevents them from liking Perl or vice-versa. Even t

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Paul Seamons
Or for the few Perl emacs people out there: C-x 8 Y C-x 8 < C-x 8 > Paul On Tuesday 01 June 2004 10:27 am, Gabriel Ebner wrote: > Hello, > > Aaron Sherman wrote: > > Well, first off my US keyboard doesn't contain it. > > Sorry, mistakenly picked an US-International chart. > > > Second, you're no

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Gabriel Ebner
Hello, Aaron Sherman wrote: > Well, first off my US keyboard doesn't contain it. Sorry, mistakenly picked an US-International chart. > Second, you're not supposed to. So why has it been chosen then? > Â is a shorthand for "zip", Good to know. > and if you don't want to use the funky one-char

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Gabriel Ebner
Hello, Mark J. Reed wrote: > I assume you mean "with" a US keyboard? US keyboards don't have Â. Oops, must have mistakenly picked an US-International chart, sorry. Gabriel. -- Gabriel Ebner - reverse "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Sat, 2004-05-29 at 19:04, Gabriel Ebner wrote: > Hello, > > Joe Gottman wrote: > >The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥). > > How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? Well, first off my US keyboard doesn't contain it. Second, you're not supposed to. ¥ is a shorthand fo

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
> >>How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? I assume you mean "with" a US keyboard? US keyboards don't have ¥. You can use " zip " if you want ASCII. Otherwise, it depends. But Yen is Unicode codepoint U+00A5 = 165 decimal, so you can type it in Windows as ALT + numpad 0165

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-30 Thread Rod Adams
Smylers wrote: Gabriel Ebner writes: Joe Gottman wrote: The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥). How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? On Windows you can probably press Alt Gr then type in some number. Close. AltGr-Minus. If you're using the US-Interna

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-30 Thread Smylers
Gabriel Ebner writes: > Joe Gottman wrote: > > >The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥). > > How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? Probably the same way as those with US keyboards do -- US keyboards don't have a yen symbol on them either. In 'Vim' I got lucky in guess

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-30 Thread Dave Whipp
It probably depends on what nationality that keyboard is for. If its Japanese, you probably won't have a problem ;-). But for the rest of us, use Vi and Ye (or zip). Dave. "Gabriel Ebner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello, > > Joe Gottman wrote: > >The zip o

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-30 Thread Gabriel Ebner
Hello, Joe Gottman wrote: >The zip operator is now the Yen sign (Â). How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? Gabriel. -- Gabriel Ebner - reverse "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-28 Thread Joe Gottman
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Lentczner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Periodic Table of the Operators > > Not to beat a dead horse, but > > I've updated the Periodic table

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-28 Thread Mark Lentczner
Not to beat a dead horse, but I've updated the Periodic table with almost all the changes that people here sent me, as well as reading a few more threads and references. This will be the last update for some time. I'll be uploading a version to cafepress so people can get posters, tee-shir

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-27 Thread Mark Lentczner
Thanks for all the comments. I started this thing as a goof, but I can already see that it will serve dual purposes. Presenting information in such a form can lead people to further insights and questions. Deborah Pickett's comments in this thread are an example. (For some real inspiring ex

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-27 Thread Stéphane Payrard
Le Thu, May 27, 2004 at 12:34:32AM +0200, le valeureux mongueur Gabriel Ebner a dit: > Hello, > > Mark Lentczner wrote: > > http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/blog/code/PeriodicTable.html > > What's periodic about it? We hope it will be periodically updated. :) > Otherwise, _nice_ table. indee.d

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-27 Thread Deborah Pickett
Mark Lentczner wrote: Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current design of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - well over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a few months to get around to drawing it... http://www.ozoneho

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-27 Thread Gabriel Ebner
Hello, Mark Lentczner wrote: > http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/blog/code/PeriodicTable.html What's periodic about it? Otherwise, _nice_ table. Gabriel. -- Gabriel Ebner - reverse "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-27 Thread Matthew Walton
Mark Lentczner wrote: All - Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current design of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - well over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a few months to get around to drawing it... http://www.o

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-27 Thread David Landgren
Mark Lentczner wrote: All - Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current design of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - well over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a few months to get around to drawing it... http://www.o

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-26 Thread Uri Guttman
> "ML" == Mark Lentczner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ML> http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/blog/code/PeriodicTable.html very cool! bugs: <, lt say greater. same in reverse for >, gt the fonts for the little things in the corners could be a bit larger or clearer. s/anonamizer/anonymizer/

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-26 Thread Mark Lentczner
LOL! That's fantastic! We _must_ put it on dev.perl.org. Thank you. You are welcome to put it on dev.perl.org. I can't help myself but to correct it, though :-) Please do. It was clear that many discussions happened after the TAKE 6 list, my primary reference. I will be happy to update it in

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-26 Thread Luke Palmer
Luke Palmer writes: > Mark Lentczner writes: > > All - > > > > Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current > > design of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - > > well over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a > > few months

Re: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-26 Thread Luke Palmer
Mark Lentczner writes: > All - > > Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current > design of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - > well over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a > few months to get around to drawing it... >

Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-26 Thread Mark Lentczner
All - Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current design of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - well over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a few months to get around to drawing it... http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark