Re: "Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp"

2003-01-25 Thread Andy Wardley
Adam Turoff wrote: > The problem with cons/car/cdr is that they're fundemental operations. > Graham *has* learned from perl, and is receptive to the idea that > fundemental operators should be huffman encoded (lambda -> fn). It > would be easy to simply rename car/cdr to first/rest, but that loses

Re: "Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp"

2003-01-24 Thread Piers Cawley
Adam Turoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:16:50AM +, Andy Wardley wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:55:56PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: >> > I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some >> > interesting observations on language design. Take a l

Re: "Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp"

2003-01-24 Thread Adam Turoff
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:00:26PM -0500, Tanton Gibbs wrote: > > The problem with cons/car/cdr is that they're fundemental operations. > > Graham *has* learned from perl, and is receptive to the idea that > > fundemental operators should be huffman encoded (lambda -> fn). It > > would be easy to

Re: "Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp"

2003-01-24 Thread Tanton Gibbs
> The problem with cons/car/cdr is that they're fundemental operations. > Graham *has* learned from perl, and is receptive to the idea that > fundemental operators should be huffman encoded (lambda -> fn). It > would be easy to simply rename car/cdr to first/rest, but that loses > the huffman natu

Re: "Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp"

2003-01-24 Thread Adam Turoff
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:16:50AM +, Andy Wardley wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:55:56PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > > I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some > > interesting observations on language design. Take a look if you're > > feeling adventurous... > >

Re: "Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp"

2003-01-22 Thread Sean O'Rourke
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Austin Hastings wrote: > I'm done with 'P'. That's it. Putative planners of programming > paradigms must proffer some prefix preferable to the pathetic > palimpsest that is 'P'! As with operators, so with programming languages -- Unicode comes not a moment too soon. /s

Re: "Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp"

2003-01-22 Thread Austin Hastings
--- Andy Wardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:55:56PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > > I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some > > interesting observations on language design. Take a look if you're > > feeling adventurous... > > I can't help feel

Re: "Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp"

2003-01-22 Thread Andy Wardley
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:55:56PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some > interesting observations on language design. Take a look if you're > feeling adventurous... I can't help feeling slightly deflated. Given the chance to re-design Lis

"Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp"

2003-01-21 Thread Rich Morin
I just finished skimming this write-up, located at http://paulgraham.com/arcll1.html I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some interesting observations on language design. Take a look if you're feeling adventurous... -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7