Re: Parallelism and Concurrency was Re: Ideas for a (nntp: message (nntp: message 18 of 20) 14 of 20) "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model

2010-05-18 Thread nigelsandever
On Tue, 18 May 2010 11:41:08 +0100, Daniel Ruoso wrote: Em Dom, 2010-05-16 às 19:34 +0100, nigelsande...@btconnect.com escreveu: Interoperability with Perl 5 and is reference counting should not be a high priority in the decision making process for defining the Perl 6 concurrency model. I

Re: Parallelism and Concurrency was Re: Ideas for a (nntp: message (nntp: message 18 of 20) 14 of 20) "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model

2010-05-18 Thread nigelsandever
On Tue, 18 May 2010 11:39:04 +0100, Daniel Ruoso wrote: This is the point I was trying to address, actually. Having *only* explicitly shared variables makes it very cumbersome to write threaded code, specially because explicitly shared variables have a lot of restrictions on what they can be (t

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2010-05-18 Thread nigelsandever
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2010-05-18 Thread nigelsandever
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Re: Parallelism and Concurrency was Re: Ideas for a"Object-Belongs-to-Thread" (nntp: message 4 of 20) threading model (nntp: message 20 of 20 -lastone!-)

2010-05-17 Thread nigelsandever
On Mon, 17 May 2010 17:20:28 +0100, Dave Whipp - d...@dave.whipp.name <+nntp+browseruk+a2ac8a2dcb.dpuu#dave.whipp.n...@spamgourmet.com> wrote: nigelsande...@btconnect.com wrote: There are very few algorithms that actually benefit from using even low hundreds of threads, let alone thousands.

Re: Parallelism and Concurrency was Re: Ideas for a "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model (nntp: message 20 of 20 -last one!-)

2010-05-16 Thread nigelsandever
On Fri, 14 May 2010 17:35:20 +0100, B. Estrade - estr...@gmail.com <+nntp+browseruk+c4c81fb0fa.estrabd#gmail@spamgourmet.com> wrote: The future is indeed multicore - or, rather, *many-core. What this means is that however the hardware jockeys have to strap them together on a single node, w

Re: Parallelism and Concurrency was Re: Ideas for a (nntp: message (nntp: message 18 of 20) 14 of 20) "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model

2010-05-16 Thread nigelsandever
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:00:01 +0100, Daniel Ruoso - dan...@ruoso.com <+nntp+browseruk+d52dbf78bb.daniel#ruoso@spamgourmet.com> wrote: Em Sex, 2010-05-14 às 18:13 +0100, nigelsande...@btconnect.com escreveu: The point I(we)'ve been trying to make is that once you have a reentrant interprete

Re: Parallelism and Concurrency was Re: Ideas for a (nntp: message 14 of 20) "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model

2010-05-14 Thread nigelsandever
On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:58:00 +0100, Daniel Ruoso - dan...@ruoso.com <+nntp+browseruk+d52dbf78bb.daniel#ruoso@spamgourmet.com> wrote: Em Sex, 2010-05-14 às 15:48 +0400, Richard Hainsworth escreveu: The less, or rather the more abstract, the specification in perl6, the less likely perl6 wil

Re: Ideas for a "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model (nntp: message 9 of 20)

2010-05-14 Thread nigelsandever
On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:05:44 +0100, B. Estrade wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:27:18PM +0100, nigelsande...@btconnect.com wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:01:41 +0100, Ruud H.G. van Tol - rv...@isolution.nl <+nntp+browseruk+014f2ed3f9.rvtol#isolution...@spamgourmet.com> wrote: > >The suppo

Re: Ideas for a "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model (nntp: message 9 of 20)

2010-05-14 Thread nigelsandever
On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:01:41 +0100, Ruud H.G. van Tol - rv...@isolution.nl <+nntp+browseruk+014f2ed3f9.rvtol#isolution...@spamgourmet.com> wrote: The support of threading should be completely optional. The threading support should not be active by default. I'd like to understand why you

Re: Ideas for a "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model (nntp: message 5 of 20)

2010-05-13 Thread nigelsandever
This should be a reply to Daniel Ruoso's post above, but I cannot persuade my nntp reader to reply to a post made before I subscribed here. Sorry On Wed, 12 May 2010 14:16:35 +0100, Daniel Ruoso wrote: I have 3 main problems with your thinking. 1: You are conflating two fundamentally differe