RE: [RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-06-01 Thread Jan Dubois
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Jesse Vincent wrote: > Making binary distribution easy is a laudable goal, but it's something > the existing infrastructure already supports. I'd love to see "CPAN > autobuilders" which build perl modules for a givven platform and > architecture and make them generally availabl

RE: Hyphens vs. Underscores

2005-11-17 Thread Jan Dubois
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Daniel Brockman wrote: > No offense to whoever made that suggestion, but I think there are far > more people out there with a developed taste for hyphenated > identifiers than there are people with a thing for using backticks as > subscript operators. > > Do you see the differe

RE: Avoid the Yen Sign [Was: Re: new sigil]

2005-10-25 Thread Jan Dubois
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Larry Wall wrote: > As for the ¥ pitfall, so far we've intentionally been careful to use > it only where an operator is expected, whereas \ is legal only where a > term is expected. So at least for Perl code, we can translate legacy > ¥ to different codepoints. (Whether the J

RE: [OT] new sigil

2005-10-21 Thread Jan Dubois
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Steve Peters wrote: > Again, I'd prefer not to be fired. Everything you have written above is > not an option for the majority of the programmers out there. Also, not > to helpful if you write your programs in TSO on an IBM mainframe. In general true, but the cent sign was

Re: finalization

2001-08-28 Thread Jan Dubois
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:04:20 -0700, Hong Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Normally, GC is more efficient than ref count, since you will have many >advanced gc algorith to choose and don't have to pay malloc overhead. You still need to malloc() your memory; however I realize that the allocator c

Re: finalization

2001-08-28 Thread Jan Dubois
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:35:34 -0700, Damien Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 09:07:03PM -0400, Sam Tregar wrote: >> Well, there's the Perl 5 reference counting solution. In normal cases >> DESTROY is called as soon as it can be. Of course we're all anxious to >> get into

Re: finalization

2001-08-28 Thread Jan Dubois
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:07:03 -0400 (EDT), Sam Tregar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Jeremy Howard wrote: > >> The answer used in .NET is to have a dispose() method (which is not a >> special name--just an informal standard) that the class user calls manually >> to clean up resou

Re: Garbage collection (was Re: JWZ on s/Java/Perl/)

2001-02-12 Thread Jan Dubois
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:28:00 -0500, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Yep, that's another issue, and one I keep forgetting about, though the fact >that we don't do predictable finalization on some objects isn't a good Yes, I know I promised to shut up until you come up with a spec, but

Re: Garbage collection (was Re: JWZ on s/Java/Perl/)

2001-02-12 Thread Jan Dubois
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:33:52 -0500 (EST), Sam Tregar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's reasonably obvious (which is to say "cheap") which variables aren't >> involved with anything finalizable. > >Probably a simple bit check and branch. Is that cheap? I guess it must >be. Yes, but incrementin

Re: Garbage collection (was Re: JWZ on s/Java/Perl/)

2001-02-12 Thread Jan Dubois
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:29:21 -0500, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 10:38 AM 2/12/2001 -0500, Sam Tregar wrote: >>On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Dan Sugalski wrote: >> >> > Perl needs some level of tracking for objects with finalization attached to >> > them. Full refcounting isn't required, ho

Re: Garbage collection (was Re: JWZ on s/Java/Perl/)

2001-02-11 Thread Jan Dubois
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:11:09 -0500, "Bryan C. Warnock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sunday 11 February 2001 19:08, Jan Dubois wrote: >> However, I couldn't solve the problem of "deterministic destruction >> behavior": Currently Perl will cal

Re: Garbage collection (was Re: JWZ on s/Java/Perl/)

2001-02-11 Thread Jan Dubois
On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 13:19:36 -0500, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Almost all refcounting schemes are messy. That's one of its problems. A >mark and sweep GC system tends to be less prone to leaks because of program >bugs, and when it *does* leak, the leaks tend to be large. Plus the