On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 15:26 +0200, Raphael Descamps wrote:
> Have a look at nqp-rx + kakapo + plumage + proto/PLS for some examples
> where you can help without any C or Perl 5 knowledge:
>
> http://gitorious.org/parrot-plumage
Best. Suggestion. Ever.
:-)
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On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 11:23 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> The standard parser will likely be pointing out spelling errors and
> conjecturing emendations for near misses. Whole-program analysis can
> even do this for any method names that look wrongish. The difference
> between Acme-X and Acme_X is n
On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 17:20 -0700, yary wrote:
> Adjectives and nouns aren't English-only. So Damian's proposal is
> multi-culti. One could argue that Perl's identifiers, keywords, etc
> are based on English so that it is more difficult for a non-English
> speaker to discern why underscore is used
First: what Damian said.
Second: Whatever syntax people come up with has to make it easy and
type-safe to name particular combinations of those bits.
In other words, you should be able to make a bitset with Unix-style
permissions:
OTHER_EXECUTE
OTHER_WRITE
OTHER_READ
GROUP_EXECUT
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 08:38 +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote:
> .doit: { $^a <=> $^b } # okay
> .doit(): { $^a <=> $^b }# okay
> .doit(1,2,3): { $^a <=> $^b } # okay
> +.doit(1,2,3): { $^a <=> $^b } # okay
> +.doit:{ $^a <=> $^b
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 00:16 -0500, Austin Hastings wrote:
> Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 18:58 -0500, Austin Hastings wrote:
> >
> >> I know that I could 'metaprogram' this stuff by using string
> >> manipulation on t
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 18:58 -0500, Austin Hastings wrote:
> I know that I could 'metaprogram' this stuff by using string
> manipulation on the various method names, and then calling a
> (self-built) call_method($obj, $method_name, ...args...) function.
You don't need to write this by hand. NQP-
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 01:15 +0100, Lithos wrote:
> Today I posted my first attempt at summarizing Perl 6 and Parrot things at
>
>http://lith-ology.blogspot.com/
>
> Any comments and corrections welcome!
This is *very* valuable to us. Please keep it up!
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I kinda like 'blorst'. The word makes me think of a warm stew on a cold
winter night. And I agree with the searchability advantage of 'blorst'
as well.
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On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:12 -0700, yary wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Damian Conway wrote:
> > Aaron Sherman asked:
> ...
> >> I'd very much like to establish that at default optimization levels for
> >> execution, this information is not guaranteed to be maintained past the
> >> creat
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 19:49 +1000, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
> +1. I have a set of 7 bookmarks that load in tabs that I call my "Perl 6"
> bookmarks. I load this group of tabs into a separate web browser window when
> I'm doing Perl 6 stuff. That link is one of the 7 links.
Perhaps your other
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 14:24 +1100, Илья wrote:
> -multi foo (@bar) { "Array " ~ join(', ', @bar) }
> -multi foo (%bar) { "Hash " ~ join(', ', %bar.keys.sort) }
> +multi foo (@bar) { "Positioanl " ~ join(', ', @bar) }
> +multi foo (%bar) { "Associative " ~ join(', ', %bar.keys.sort) }
Typo in thi
On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 21:22 -0400, James Cloos wrote:
> lwall> + enum TrigBase is export ;
>
> Is Circles of much value?
>
> I can see Semicircles, since that would make the range (-1,1] or [-1,1).
> But a range of [0,1) or (0,1] seems *much* less useful.
>
> Or am I missing an obvious use case?
Tim Nelson:
> There's some standard that says this is how to generate unicode:
>
> 1.Hold down Ctrl+Shift
> 2.Press U
> 3.Type the hexadecimal for the unicode character
> 4.Release Ctrl+Shift
This works under GNOME, which also has a variant that is a little
friendlier to the fi
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 12:31 -0800, Jon Lang wrote:
> $y ± 5 # same as ($y - 5) | ($y + 5)
> $y within 5 # same as ($y - 5) .. ($y + 5)
Oh, that's just beautiful.
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On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 15:33 -0600, Dave Rolsky wrote:
> Of course, if you're dealing with TAI only, you're safe for constants up
> to ONE_WEEK.
So we just define ONE_MONTH as 4 * ONE_WEEK, right?
*duck*
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On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 22:57 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Carl Mäsak wrote:
> > A tree is a graph without cycles.
That's insufficient. In fact, there are a number of ways that the
general concept of an acyclic graph must be constrained before you get
something you can cal
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 22:38 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
> My third thought is that it would be very useful also to have
> date/time objects that integrate well with eg. ctime, mtime, and the like;
> I'd
> start with Time::Piece as a model.
>
> http://search.cpan.org/dist/Time-Piece/Pi
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 08:12 +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote:
> @@ -103,7 +106,7 @@
> =item *
>
> POD sections may be used reliably as multiline comments in Perl 6.
> -Unlike in Perl 5, POD syntax now requires that C<=begin comment>
> +Unlike in Perl 5, POD syntax now lets you use C<=
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 14:23 +, Peter Scott wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:35:50 +0100, Carl Mäsak wrote:
> > I'm trying to explain to myself why I don't like this idea at all. I'm
> > only partially successful. Other people seem to have no problem with it,
> > so I might just be wrong, or part
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 16:03 -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
> Patrick R. Michaud wrote (on p6c):
> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 08:53:33AM +0100, Moritz Lenz wrote:
> >> Another thing to keep in mind is that once we start to have a Perl 6
> >> prelude, we might decide to be nice neighbors and share it wit
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 07:01 -0800, Ovid wrote:
> - Original Message
>
>
> > > > I could optionally make the following work:
> > > >
> > > > $string.trim(:leading<0>);
> > > > $string.trim(:trailing<0>);
>
> Alternatively, those could be ltrim() and rtrim(). If you need to
> dynamica
On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 23:06 +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote:
> +=item -0 *octal/hex*
> +
> +Sets input record separator. Missing due to lack of specification in
> +L. There is a comment about this in the L
> +section at the end of this document.
I use this option quite a bit -- but on
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 12:27 -0800, jerry gay wrote:
> oh, yes, whoops! i responded to someone else in #pugs earlier, and
> forgot to address the item here. C replaces p5's
> C (that's the latest idea from damian, although it seems not
> to be published yet).
Ah, I get it! What about perldoc's spe
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 22:56 +0100, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
> > When I asked this question on #perl6, pmurias suggested using
> > gather/take syntax, but that didn't feel right to me either --
> > it's contrived in a similar way to using a one-off closure.
>
> Contrived how?
Meaning, the gather
Thank you for the quick turnaround!
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 10:55 -0800, jerry gay wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 09:27, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
> > It's also not
> > obvious what a boolean named $doc does -- which probably means either
> > that it's not supposed
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 17:08 +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote:
> +=head2 Synopsis
> +
> + multi sub perl6(
> +Bool :a($autosplit),
> +Bool :c($check-syntax),
> +Bool :$doc,
> +:e($execute),
> +:$execute-lax, #TODO fix illegal -e6 syntax. -6? not legal. -x? hrmm
> +
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 14:19 +0200, Leon Timmermans wrote:
> When going OO, I'd say an augment()/inner() approach would be
> cleanest. See
> http://search.cpan.org/~drolsky/Moose/lib/Moose/Cookbook/Basics/Recipe6.pod
> for an example. I don't know how to express that in Perl 6 though.
There's no d
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 00:30 +0200, Leon Timmermans wrote:
> I can't help wondering "why does pid_file_handler need to be split up
> in the first place?" Why wouldn't it be possible to simply call
> pid_file_handler after become_daemon?
Two answers:
1. If an error occurs that will not allow the PI
In the below Perl 5 code, I refactored to pull the two halves of the PID
file handling out of init_server(), but to do so, I had to return a sub
from pid_file_handler() that acted as a "continuation". The syntax is a
bit ugly, though. Is there a cleaner way to this in Perl 6?
##
sub init_ser
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:21 +0100, Leon Timmermans wrote:
> If you really want it, a macro can fix all of this for you.
> That's the beauty of macros: these kinds of things are possible if you
> need them.
Sure, but user-written macros are also an easy out that allows one to
avoid making hard deci
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 13:07 -0700, David Green wrote:
> On 2008-Dec-2, at 12:33 pm, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 08:50 +0100, Carl Mäsak wrote:
> >> Darren (>):
> >>> How does one write anonymous value literals of those types?
> >
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 08:50 +0100, Carl Mäsak wrote:
> Darren (>):
> > Bit
> > Blob
> > Set
> > Bag
> > Mapping
> >
> > How does one write anonymous value literals of those types? And I mean
> > directly, not by writing a literal of some other type and using a conversion
> > function to deriv
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 11:34 -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
> I agree with the idea of making Perl 6's filesystem/etc interface more
> abstract,
> as previously discussed, and also that users should be able to choose between
> different levels of abstraction where that makes sense, either picking a
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 17:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> +C<< infix:<...> >>, the series operator.
Lovely, just lovely.
> +1, 3, 5 ... *# odd numbers
> +1. 2. 4 ... *# powers of 2
Did you mean to use commas on that second line?
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On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:32 -0700, Darren Duncan wrote:
> Now a common factor to both of my proposals is that this Test.pm is
> intentionally kept as simple as possible and contains just the
> functionality needed to bootstrap the official Perl 6 test suite; if the
> official test suite doesn't
Typo nit:
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 09:42 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> +file in the Standard Dialect (which itself has versions that correspond
> +to the same version of the official Perl test suite. Eval strings,
Appears to be missing a ')' before the '.'
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On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 18:45 -0500, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. Allow people to choose where their money will go (if that's what they
> want to do)
Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that this can't be done
directly beca
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 11:46 -0800, chromatic wrote:
> The criterion for including a module in the core is "Is this necessary to get
> and install other modules?" not "Why not include this module?"
WELL SAID.
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On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 19:59 +0100, James Fuller wrote:
> XML Parser is what I am talking about
OK -- do you want an event-based parser? Do you want a DOM parser? Do
you want a simplified tree generator parser? Do you care about memory
limitations? Run time?
Does the parser need to be robust a
Not too put too strong a bias on it, but:
XML processors are a dime a dozen. There is no way for us to know *now*
what the "best" XML processor(s) will be a decade from now, and Perl 6
is intended to be a very long term language. And frankly there are
enough different use cases to ensure that no
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 12:37 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> Yow. ICATBW.
The what now?
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On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 19:00 -0700, Jonathan Lang wrote:
> Please. I've always found the "opendir ... readdir ... closedir" set
> to be clunky.
>
> Also: why distinguish between "open" and "opendir"? If the string is
> the name of a file, 'open' means "open the file"; if it is the name of
> a dir
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 21:35 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> +So these are in sorted version order:
> +
> +1.2.0.999
> +1.2.1_01
> +1.2.1_2
> +1.2.1_003
> +1.2.1a1
> +1.2.1.alpha1
> +1.2.1b1
> +1.2.1.beta1
> +1.2.1.gamma
> +1.2.1α1
> +1.2.1β1
> +1.2.
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 09:20 -0800, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
> How is casting and coersion handled with expressions involving mixed low
> and high level types?
>
> For example, what is the output of this?
>
> my Int $ten = 10;
> my int4 $a = 0;
> my in
How is casting and coersion handled with expressions involving mixed low
and high level types?
For example, what is the output of this?
my Int $ten = 10;
my int4 $a = 0;
my int4 $b;
$b = ($a + 2.4 * $ten) / 4;
say $b;
The answers to the above questions may alter my view o
How do you specify that you want to byte-stringify a compact struct,
rather than "normal" stringify it?
Does the byte-stringified version include internal and/or trailing
alignment padding? How do you specify the other choices?
Whether or not trailing padding is included when byte-stringifying a
What happens when you cast between low-level types? If the source value
is out of range of the destination type, do you get:
1. An exception?
2. Clip to finite range always?
3. Clip to finite range for ints, clip to infinities for nums?
4. Exception when dest is int, clip to infinities when dest
What happens when a low-level type overflows or underflows? For
example, if you decrement an int1 twice, what happens?
If you increment a uint8 past 255, do you get:
1. A uint8 with value 0?
2. A uint16 with value 256?
3. A failure?
What about incrementing an int8 past 127? Do you get:
1. An
Does Perl 6 have (bit/string) rotation ops? Especially bit rotation on
low-level integer types would be Nifty for making some numeric
algorithms cleaner, more self documenting, and potentially faster than
forcing the use of a combination of other bitwise ops to do the same
thing.
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How are the bitwise shifts defined on low level types? In particular,
for right shift, does high bit extension or zero fill occur? Does the
answer depend on whether the low level type is signed or not?
On the flip side, it seems more useful if we have both operators
available for either signed o
I'd like to request that num16 and therefore complex16 be added to S09,
and made optional just as num128 and complex128 are. The half-sized
floating point type is commonly used in computer graphics and widely
supported by GPUs and High Dynamic Range image formats such as OpenEXR.
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On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 16:29 -0800, chromatic wrote:
> On Monday 26 February 2007 11:29, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
>
> > Does Perl 6 on Parrot have Perl 5 connectivity?
>
> Not until Perl 6 can use PIR code. After that, it depends on what you want
> to
> do with the
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 03:02 +0800, Audrey Tang wrote:
> 2007/2/27, Geoffrey Broadwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Are you looking for Perl code that creates such packed arrays and passes
> > them to OpenGL? Or are you looking for links to manpages for the OpenGL
> >
> Pugs at the moment support all of the above, using the Perl 5 bridge
> for "use perl5:SDL" and "use perl5:OpenGL". So the sole requirement
> seems to be:
Cool beans. I'd had some simple OpenGL code working-with-hacks on Pugs
many months ago, but I did not know the current status after all the
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 08:25 -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:48:47PM -0800, chromatic wrote:
> > On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:40, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
> >
> > > What backends support packed native arrays at this point? And what'
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 14:16 -0800, chromatic wrote:
> On Sunday 25 February 2007 13:57, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
>
> > I'm not trying to say that the implementors should rush either, nor am I
> > complaining about current status; I grok the dynamics of volunteer code.
>
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 13:26 -0800, chromatic wrote:
> On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:56, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
>
> > As I mentioned in another thread, but didn't make clear in that email: I
> > don't need a "finished" spec. I need the *current* ver
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 12:15 -0800, Jonathan Lang wrote:
> I submit that you'll have even more luck discouraging such things if
> you can give a reasonable and believable timeline as to when the 6.0
> spec will be ready and perl 6.1 features can start being considered.
As I mentioned in another thr
What backends support packed native arrays at this point? And what's
the performance like?
Native access to packed arrays is the big thing I'm looking for before I
port a pile of source filtered Perl 5 code to Perl 6. It's a simple 3D
engine, so all of the libraries I need to work with want to w
>From S06:
*
As we saw earlier, "zip" produces little arrays by taking one element
from each list in turn, so
(0..2; 'a'..'c') ==> my @;tmp;
for @;tmp.zip { say }
produces [0,'a'],[1,'b'],[2,'c']. If you don't want the subarrays, then
use C instead:
(0..2; 'a'..'c') ==> my @;tm
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 13:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Bitwise operations on a C generally fail unless the
> +C in question can provide an abstract C interface somehow.
> +Coercion to C should generally invalidate the C interface.
> +As a generic type C may be instantiated as (or bound to) a
The first entry in my new weekly "Perl etc." O'Reilly blog is up:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7928
When I mentioned it on #perl6, nothingmuch suggested I post to p6l as
well. So here you go. :-)
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