Re: Calling positionals by name in presence of a slurpy hash

2005-08-24 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 10:11:37AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > setting up the proxy hash. It's possible that COW hashes can be made > to work efficiently. We'll need to copy hashes if we want to modify > them to pass to subfunctions, just as when you change your environment > it doesn't affect yo

Re: Demagicalizing pairs

2005-08-24 Thread John Macdonald
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 10:12:39AM -0700, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:38:39AM -0400, John Macdonald wrote: > > When calling a function, I would like to be able to have a > > mixture of named and positional arguments. The named argument > > acts as a tab into the argument lis

Re: Demagicalizing pairs

2005-08-24 Thread Dave Whipp
I've been trying to thing about how to make this read right without too much line noise. I think Lukes keyword approach ("named") is on the right track. If we want named params at both start and end, then its bound to be a bit confusing. But perhaps we can say that they're always at the end --

Re: Demagicalizing pairs

2005-08-24 Thread Chip Salzenberg
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:38:39AM -0400, John Macdonald wrote: > When calling a function, I would like to be able to have a > mixture of named and positional arguments. The named argument > acts as a tab into the argument list and subsequent unnamed > arguments continue on. I see a main point of

Re: Demagicalizing pairs

2005-08-24 Thread John Williams
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Damian Conway wrote: > Larry wrote: > > > Plus I still think it's a really bad idea to allow intermixing of > > positionals and named. We could allow named at the beginning or end > > but still keep a constraint that all positionals must occur together > > in one zone. > > If

Re: Demagicalizing pairs

2005-08-24 Thread Paul Seamons
I don't think this example reads very clearly. Visually you have to parse until you see the next => and then back track one word to figure out the key. > move( from=> $x, $y, delta=> $up, $right ); Personally I'd write that as either move(from => [$x, $y], delta => [$up, $right]); OR as

Perl 6 code - a possible compile, link, run cycle

2005-08-24 Thread Yuval Kogman
WRT to PIL and compilation and all that, I think it's time to think about how the linker might look. As I see it the compilation chain with the user typing this in the prompt: perl6 foo.pl perl6 is a compiled perl 6 script that takes an input file, and compiles it, and then passes the co

Re: Demagicalizing pairs

2005-08-24 Thread John Macdonald
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 04:27:03PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: > Larry wrote: > > >Plus I still think it's a really bad idea to allow intermixing of > >positionals and named. We could allow named at the beginning or end > >but still keep a constraint that all positionals must occur together > >in

Re: ~ and + vs. generic eq

2005-08-24 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 16:32:37 -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > Hmm, well, I don't think >>&op<< is valid syntax, but you did say > "semantics", so I can't criticize that part. :-) What is >><<, btw? Is it &circumfix:{'>>','<<'} (Code &op --> Code); # takes some code, returns a listop or

Re: ~ and + vs. generic eq

2005-08-24 Thread Damian Conway
Larry wrote: Or we could have a different operator that coerces like == and eq, only via .snap: if [1,2,3] equals [1,2,3] { say "true" } else { say "false" } (Actual name negotiable, of course). The advantage of the latter approach is that you can say @foo >>equals<< @bar and th

Re: Demagicalizing pairs

2005-08-24 Thread Damian Conway
Larry mused: On the other hand, I'm not all that attached to colon itself. I *am*!!! If, as proposed elsewhere, we get rid of the %Foo:: notation in favor of some Foo<> variant, then trailing :: becomes available (ignoring ??/:: for the moment), and new Dog:: tail => 'long' almost mak