On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 22:26, Austin Hastings wrote:
> So on the grand balance of utility, what are the metrics that traits are
> supposed to help improve?
Two big ones:
- naming collections of behavior that are too fine-grained to fit into
classes cleanly
- enabling finer-grained
Larry, chromatic, Allison, Damian, et al:
What's the big fascination with traits?
I read the paper, and at the end where they talked about refactoring the
Smalltalk class library, they managed to claim 12% fewer lines of code:
> In total, these classes use 46 different traits and implement 509
From: Jonathan Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Austin Hastings wrote:
> > There's two ways to look at that. One way is to say: "I'm going to
> > define an interface as being this OTHER thing minus a method." That
> > seems like a positive construction, and supporting it might be
> > desirable.
>
Austin Hastings wrote:
> There's two ways to look at that. One way is to say: "I'm going to
> define an interface as being this OTHER thing minus a method." That
> seems like a positive construction, and supporting it might be
> desirable.
>
> The other way is to say: "Nobody knows what methods
Joe Gottman wrote:
> Luke Palmer wrote:
> > Your renaming can be done easily enough, and more clearly (IMO) with:
> >
> > class Trog
> > does Dog does Tree {
> > method bark() { ... } # Explicitly remove the provided method
> > method dogBark() { .Dog::bark() }
> > method
From: Jonathan Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Luke Palmer wrote:
> > Renaming methods defeats the purpose of roles. Roles are like
> > interfaces inside-out. They guarantee a set of methods -- an interface
> > -- except they provide the implementation to (in terms of other,
> > required metho
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From: "Luke Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joe Gottman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:34 PM
Subject: [perl] Re: Roles and Mix-ins?
> Joe Gottman writes:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Luke P
Luke Palmer wrote:
> Renaming methods defeats the purpose of roles. Roles are like
> interfaces inside-out. They guarantee a set of methods -- an interface
> -- except they provide the implementation to (in terms of other,
> required methods). Renaming the method destroys the interface
> compati
Joe Gottman wrote:
>How about something like
> class Trog
>does Dog {bark=>dogBark} does Tree {bark=>treeBark}
>{...}
>
> Then we could have code like
> my Trog $foo = Trog.new();
> my Dog $spot := $foo;
> my Tree $willow := $foo;
> $spot.ba
Joe Gottman writes:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Luke Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:51 AM
> Subject: [perl] Re: Roles and Mix-ins?
>
>
> > David Storrs writes:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:12:31AM -0800, Larry Wa
- Original Message -
From: "Luke Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:51 AM
Subject: [perl] Re: Roles and Mix-ins?
> David Storrs writes:
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:12:31AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Austin Hastings) writes:
>PS: While I'm somewhat sympathetic to the fact that eu guys are trying to
>spin up 200 years worth of amendments and supreme court decisions at the
>same time, it's still a ratf*ck. Eu need to get eurselves a Larry.
Jus
David Storrs writes:
>
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:12:31AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:57:17AM -0700, Luke Palmer wrote:
>
> > : For one, one role's methods don't silently override another's. Instead,
> > : you get, er, role conflict and you have to disambiguate your
Uri Guttman wrote:
> i say we just sell them a license to use the US constitution.
Bill Gates wrote:
> What is it with these Linux guys?
> i say we just sell them a license to use Windoze.
:-)
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