Re: apology (was Re: Exegesis2 and the "is" keyword)

2001-05-16 Thread Nathan Wiger
* Dave Storrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/16/2001 11:25]: > > I recently received the following email from someone whose name I > have snipped. > > > * Dave Storrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/16/2001 08:11]: > > > > > > Ok, this is basically a bunch of "me too!"s. > > > > Keep the snide comments

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Nathan Torkington
Ariel Scolnicov writes: > Am I the only one here who's confused? > > How does the printing happen in the correct order? I mean, if I said > > my $x = "Post order: &show($root, $post)\n"; > print $x; > > then (I hope) we're agreed printing would happen in the *wrong* order > (first the

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Tony Olekshy
Felicitations. Yours, &c, Tony Olekshy

apology (was Re: Exegesis2 and the "is" keyword)

2001-05-16 Thread Dave Storrs
I recently received the following email from someone whose name I have snipped. > * Dave Storrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/16/2001 08:11]: > > > > Ok, this is basically a bunch of "me too!"s. > > Keep the snide comments to yourself. Thanks. This was regarding a reply I had made

Re: Exegesis2 and the "is" keyword

2001-05-16 Thread Peter Scott
At 10:51 AM 5/16/01 +0200, Carl Johan Berglund wrote: >At 15.02 -0700 01-05-15, Nathan Wiger wrote: >> $*ARGS is chomped; >> >>I wonder if that wouldn't be better phrased as: >> >>autochomp $*ARGS;# $ARGS.autochomp > >I see your point, but I see a clear difference between these propertie

Re: Exegesis2 and the "is" keyword

2001-05-16 Thread Nathan Wiger
* Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/15/2001 17:49]: > > Is that autochomp as a keyword or autochomp as an indirect method call > on $*ARGS? Who cares? ;-) > > The thing I worry about is this: I don't think actions should be > > declared using "is", necessarily. > > > >$STDERR is fl

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Larry Wall
Mark Koopman writes: : now we can all be linguists! As they say: It used to be I couldn't spell lingrist, and now I are one. Larry

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 09:24:33AM -0700, Mark Koopman wrote: > > Will ebonics be included in this locale thingy? > it better, or that's discrimination :| YM "that be discrimination" HTH. -- If computer science was a science, computer "scientists" would study what computer systems do and draw

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Mark Koopman
David Grove wrote: >>--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>Oh, didn't Larry tell you? We're making perl's parser locale-aware so >>>it uses the local language to determine what the keywords are. >>>I thought that was in the list of things you'd need to take into >>>account when you

RE: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread David Grove
> --- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, didn't Larry tell you? We're making perl's parser locale-aware so > > it uses the local language to determine what the keywords are. > > I thought that was in the list of things you'd need to take into > > account when you wrote the parser...

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Austin Hastings
--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:40 AM 5/16/2001 -0700, Austin Hastings wrote: > > >--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh, didn't Larry tell you? We're making perl's parser > locale-aware so > > > it uses the local language to determine what the keywords are. >

Re: Exegesis2 and the "is" keyword

2001-05-16 Thread Dave Storrs
Ok, this is basically a bunch of "me too!"s. On Tue, 15 May 2001, Nathan Wiger wrote: > Awesome. Simple, Perlish, easy to read, etc. Also, I see you took the > suggestion of: > >Access through... Perl 5 Perl 6 >= == == >Array

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 07:40 AM 5/16/2001 -0700, Austin Hastings wrote: >--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, didn't Larry tell you? We're making perl's parser locale-aware so > > it uses the local language to determine what the keywords are. > > I thought that was in the list of things you'd need to

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 07:40:19AM -0700, Austin Hastings wrote: > mios @ventanas son inmutables; It's all part of the secret plan to make Perl *even more* unmaintainable. :) -- CLUELESSNESS: There are No Stupid Questions, But There Are a LOT of Inquisitive Idiots

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Dave Storrs
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:30:07PM -0700, Dave Storrs wrote: > > - A while ago, someone suggested that the word 'has' be an alias > > for 'is', so that when you roll your own properties, you could write > > more-grammatically-correct statements suc

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Austin Hastings
--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, didn't Larry tell you? We're making perl's parser locale-aware so > it uses the local language to determine what the keywords are. > I thought that was in the list of things you'd need to take into > account when you wrote the parser... ;-P mi

Parsing perl > 6.0

2001-05-16 Thread Bryan C. Warnock
Jumping the gun a little With the pluggable parser architecture, would it be a Good/Bad/Ugly Thing to freeze the parser itself after each Perl release? One of the omnipresent arguments against any change is how it affects legacy. Although Perl 6[.0] is a recognizable departure from Perl 5

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Carl Johan Berglund
At 14.07 +0200 01-05-16, Bart Lateur wrote: >This person obviously expects a pipe effect, i.e. capturing of the >"printed" output. > >Should Perl6 provide one? Is print() really easier to grasp, than >'return $buffer', with possibly lots of '$buffer.=$append' in the sub? >Actually, yes, the latter

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Bart Lateur
On Wed, 16 May 2001 13:49:42 +0200, Carl Johan Berglund wrote: >sub show {print "6"} >print "Perl ${show()}\n"; > >(That prints "6Perl", not "Perl 6".) > >If you want to call the subroutine in the middle of the string, you >should make it _return_ something, not print it. This person obviously

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Carl Johan Berglund
At 10.39 +0300 01-05-16, Ariel Scolnicov wrote: >How does the printing happen in the correct order? I mean, if I said > > my $x = "Post order: &show($root, $post)\n"; > print $x; > >then (I hope) we're agreed printing would happen in the *wrong* order >(first the output of show($root, $po

Re: Exegesis2 and the "is" keyword

2001-05-16 Thread Carl Johan Berglund
At 15.02 -0700 01-05-15, Nathan Wiger wrote: >The only worry/problem/etc that I wonder about is the potential overuse >of the "is" keyword. It is a very nice syntactic tool, but when I see >something like this: > >$*ARGS is chomped; > >I wonder if that wouldn't be better phrased as: > >aut

Re: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2

2001-05-16 Thread Ariel Scolnicov
Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Edward Peschko writes: > > Ok, question here. Are these exegesises 'blessed'? What is open to > > debate on this? > > As Simon says, ask whatever questions you want. > > > print "Post order: "; show($root,$post); print "\n"; > > would be better