Re: Revamping the build system

2001-10-20 Thread Robert
On Thu, 2001-10-11 at 12:24, Dan Sugalski wrote: > No, we don't have to do it in C. We can do it in perl, we just can't > require perl for the initial build. The steps would be: > > 1) Build minimal perl 6 with default parameters using platform build tool > 2) Run configure with minimal perl 6 >

Re: Revamping the build system

2001-10-20 Thread Robert
On Thu, 2001-10-11 at 15:06, Josh Wilmes wrote: > It seems to me that we should look at cons before writing Yet Another Perl > Build System. (i haven't used it myself, so I don;'t know if it's good > or not). For reference: http://www.dsmit.com/cons/ I like Cons, but I don't think it's appr

Re: [netlabs #482] New Tickets now come to p6i

2002-04-02 Thread Robert
Ok - New tickets created in the parrot queue on bugs6.perl.org are now automagically sent to p6i. You can just reply to them and "the right thing" will happen -- the messages will get tracked. Just keep the [netlabs #foo] string in the header. If the tickets don't show up im

Re: [netlabs #482] New Tickets now come to p6i

2002-04-02 Thread Robert
Dennis Haney wrote: > could the http://bugs6.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=XX link be > posted in the messages? Yes. It should be in all future ones. -R

Re: [PATCH] Getting ICU to build on OS X

2003-09-28 Thread Robert
Please also send a copy of this to the ICU developers. (See the ICU website/documentation.) We need to try and make as few changes as possible to ICU, or it will become a _nightmare_ to maintain. By making sure our local changes get sent upstreadm it will keep our life simpler in the future.

Re: [PS] open patches

2003-10-22 Thread Robert
If anyone goes through that list and provides me with a list of needed updates (in a standardized format), I can do some bulk updates relatively easily. -R Leopold Toetsch wrote: http://www.parrotcode.org/openpatches/ shows a list of open patches ranging from #801 up to recent ones. Some of th

Re: [PATCH] Fix for remaining PPC JIT failures

2004-01-10 Thread Robert
Yeah, I inquired about that ("Patch submission gone missing?" of 1/1/2004), and Robert Spier indicated that it was in the RT moderation queue. If it doesn't show up in a bit, I'll re-send that patch submission directly to the list. It was in the -list- submission queue. I

Planet Parrot

2004-08-22 Thread Robert
Matt and Steve's postings about their Parrot related blogs triggered me to create 'Planet Parrot' -> http://planet.parrotcode.org It's an aggregator of: Matt chromatic Dan Suglaski It only has a link to Steve's blog right now, because he doesn't provide RSS. (The downsid

Re: tinderbox

2004-10-13 Thread Robert
does anyone know what happend with http://tinderbox.perl.org? It is offline for quite some time now :-( It died as part of the meltdown of onion a while back. It's on the list 'o things to get back, but it hasn't gotten there yet. I'll go nudge and see what's up. Last I checked, Zach was busy wi

Externals in Repository (again) (was Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17)

2004-10-20 Thread Robert
I understand Dan's view that parrot should be 100% self contained, but I really think its silly to inline CPAN modules into our CVS repository. I have a compromise solution, which might satisfy Dan. 1. I create a new parrot-external-dependencies CVS repository. All external dependencies that Dan w

Re: [perl #xxxxx] [PATCH] garbage characters in a comment

2005-03-09 Thread Robert
Indeed curious. The first version was the gzip file, but utf8 encoded. Double weird that it would only happen once. Did you do it the same way both times, Jarkko?

recent svn issues

2008-02-02 Thread Robert
Dear parroteers- A small number of people have reported periodic issues committing to the parrot subversion repository. As of yet, we've been unable to create a repeatable test, find anything obviously wrong that might be causing this issue, or even logs that show a horrible error on our side.

Re: Final, no really, Final draft: Conventions and Guidelines for Perl Source Code

2001-08-24 Thread Robert Spier
Just some brief comments... $0.02 or some such. :) -R Quoting Dave Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > =item * > > "K&R" style for indenting control constructs: ie the closing C<}> > should > line up with the opening C etc. You should provide a short example here - K&R has lots of nasties, you

Re: Final, no really, Final draft: Conventions and Guidelines for Perl Source Code

2001-09-07 Thread Robert Spier
>>How about something a little more explicit than XXX, like TODO or FIXME? > Some syntax-highlighting editors highlight "XXX". Let's use that feature. Which ones? emacs doesn't seem to do it by default. > And how can you get more explicit than XXX, anyway? Funny, but I still think TODO or

Re: CVS update mailing list

2001-09-14 Thread Robert Spier
Yes- People just need to agree to send all patches to RT first so that they can be tagged in their subject line, so discussion gets tracked. For now, RT needs to be CC'ed on followups - soon it will just "listen". When Simon/Dan/$PATCHER applies/rejects a patch, they can t

RE: Half-completed parrot/parrot.h conversion?

2001-09-14 Thread Robert Spier
Quoting Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hmmm. I think we need a reorg of the source directories, then. I'll get > > with Simon and coordinate doing this. (It's going to make CVS *so* > happy... :) It's often easier to do this by moving the RCS files inside the CVS respository directly - it's

RE: [proposed] Moving *.h to include/parrot/ right away

2001-09-16 Thread Robert Spier
I think there's an extra / in the cvs add line in the loop. Gibbs Tanton - tgibbs writes: >I don't think anyone objects to this...I vote go ahead and move the .h files >and modify Makefile.in according to Brent's email. > >Tanton > >$ cvs -q upd -AdP >$ mkdir -p include/parrot >$

RE: [PATCH]Makefile.in

2001-09-16 Thread Robert Spier
Gibbs Tanton - tgibbs writes: >Ok, here is the rule based makefile... Thanks Looks good (and works for me.) I suggest the following patch on top of Gibbs' patch, to seperate form and function of CC and CFLAGS. (Also, the "standard" (fwiw) is CFLAGS, not C_FLAGS) -R --- Makefile.in.1

void*

2001-09-20 Thread Robert Spier
Dan, Could you explain again why you don't want char* anywhere, and prefer void*? You answered this on language-dev, but went off on what seemed to be a tangent about encodings. Some ramblings of my own that may be confusing me, are: char* doesn't necessarily mean "a string". would t

Re: void*

2001-09-20 Thread Robert Spier
Quoting Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Could you explain again why you don't want char* anywhere, and > prefer > > void*? > > Because for character data we're not sure char * is right. (Might be > wchar_t, __int16, __int32, or something else) It's also to shake off the > > "Oh, it's

RE: Revamping the build system

2001-10-22 Thread Robert Spier
>> Ant is different. Instead of a model where it is extended with shell based >commands, it is >> extended using Java classes. Instead of writing shell commands, the >configuration files >> are XML based calling out a target tree where various tasks get executed. >Each task is run >> by an object

Re: Revamping the build system

2001-10-23 Thread Robert Spier
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 20:52, Russ Allbery wrote: > Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Once we build miniparrot, then *everything* can be done in perl. Having > > hacked auto* stuff, I think that'd be a good thing. (autoconf and > > friends are unmitigated evil hacks--people just don't

mod_parrot (was Re: Schedule of things to come)

2001-10-28 Thread Robert Spier
> So I know for the first-stage rollout, does Apache's module system support > Apache managing filehandles and modules calling apache's I/O routines, or > does it just do weird magic with I/O on normal filehandles? I'm pretty sure that for a simple implementation, we only need to worry about "

Re: preferences for data structure diagrams?

2001-11-11 Thread Robert Spier
On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 07:38:28PM -0500, Ken Fox wrote: | I'm finishing up my design for lexicals and I'd like to | provide a graphical presentation. PDF is probably the | best choice for viewing, but what is the best format for | the source? I've been using "dia", but maybe something Dia is ve

Re: preferences for data structure diagrams?

2001-11-12 Thread Robert Spier
>I was wondering about *editing* them. IMHO all the data >structures in Parrot must be documented as beautifully as >PerlGuts Illustrated. Parrot is evolving quickly though >and needs documentation that is easy to update. Yes. Definitely. I think PerlGuts used GraphViz. >"dia" is probably a wo

The tree is burning!

2001-11-12 Thread Robert Spier
The tinderbox is showing some unhappyness: http://tinderbox.perl.org/tinderbox/showbuilds.cgi?tree=parrot I think some things may just need to be kicked. -R

Re: Revamping the build system

2001-10-11 Thread Robert Spier
| I'm OK requiring a C compiler and a build tool for a platform. It's a C | compiler and perl 5 that I don't want to require. (Rather nasty | bootstrapping issues there... :) This makes things a lot harder. Suddenly we're re-implementing make. (in C) Speaking of re-implementing make, I just

Re: cvs repository on regular port

2001-11-29 Thread Robert Spier
On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 18:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > hey, > > I'm trying to set up tinderbox here for parrot on two systems (sun5.6 and omvs > (open edition os/390)) > > Unfortunately, I can't see to port 2401 in the outside world because of > firewall (to do the continuous checkout from cvs

mod_parrot update

2001-12-01 Thread Robert Spier
With a little bit of substitution magic, a serious abuse of dynamic linking, a count or two of using static data improperly, mod_parrot can now have scripts which output to the users' web browser. I think they're coming to take me away... put me in a little blue room for a while... If you want

Re: Nmake is stupid.

2001-12-12 Thread Robert Spier
| patches integrated in soon, and a longer-term solution (i.e. a perl make) | should be ready not too long after that. bool query { Dan, you've been unclear. Is a perl5 based make system where you want to be today? } -R

[netlabs #208] [PATCH] "make distclean" blows away CVS/* files

2001-12-15 Thread Robert Spier
[amk - Fri Dec 14 20:42:39 2001]: > Running "make distclean" with a post-0.0.3 snapshot of the CVS tree > deletes all the files in CVS/ subdirectories, making further updating of > the tree impossible. This patch makes 'make distclean' not blow away CVS files. Is this the answer, or should we c

Re: One of these things is not like the others...

2002-01-01 Thread Robert Spier
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 10:11:38AM -0500, Gregor N. Purdy wrote: > Bryan -- > > > Mixed modes for *.pl scripts in the main directory. Should all probably be > > 0644. > > Changing them directly in the repository should help. $ chmod 0644 *.pl,v Done. -R

Re: We're all just Parrot Troopers

2002-01-01 Thread Robert Spier
> > An updated TODO list is needed. As is maybe a reminder on bugs.perl.org. bugs6.perl.org > The things that I want to happen for 0.0.4 are not sexy. They are I've added the 0.0.4 goals to http://www.parrotcode.org/todo -R

CVS Reorganization Tonight

2002-01-29 Thread Robert Spier
At Simon's request, I will be moving things around in the CVS repository tonight between 7 and 11 PM PST (GMT+8). I'll disable commit access, and will send out a note when I'm done, with a summary of the changes. If you have files checked out and they are being worked on, you will need to eithe

CVS Reorganization Complete

2002-01-29 Thread Robert Spier
The following things have changed: - Renamed include/parrot/register_funcs.h to regfuncs.h - Renamed languages/miniperl/miniperlc to mpc - Moved t/op/pmc* to t/op/pmc/ - Moved Parrot/* to lib/Parrot/ - Moved Test/* to lib/Test/ Revision history has been preserved in the following manner: - th

Re: Parrot FAQ location

2002-02-03 Thread Robert Spier
On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 09:07, Melvin Smith wrote: > > >1.> There is no link to the FAQ on the Perl6 page (that I could find > anyway). > > (http://www.panix.com/~ziggy/parrot.html - I think this it) > > This really should be stored or linked in the Perl6 Parrot area. > The new location is h

Re: [PATCH] POST_MORTERM, running.pod [APPLIED]

2002-02-03 Thread Robert Spier
> >I could also replace some "perl foo" calls with "./foo" if someone > >wanted to set the executable flag in CVS on assemble.pl, optimize.pl, > >etc. Done. (For all the .pl files in the root directory.) You'll need to delete them and let CVS recreate them (cvs update) for the change to take e

Re: [PATCH] POST_MORTERM, running.pod [APPLIED]

2002-02-04 Thread Robert Spier
Dan Sugalski writes: >At 1:08 PM -0800 2/3/02, Robert Spier wrote: >> > >I could also replace some "perl foo" calls with "./foo" if someone >>> >wanted to set the executable flag in CVS on assemble.pl, optimize.pl, >>> >etc. >>

Re: [PATCH] POST_MORTERM, running.pod [APPLIED]

2002-02-04 Thread Robert Spier
>>In general, try a cvs update -P, which should eliminate empty >>directories. > >Thanks. A clean CVS checkout was catching them and causing problems >for me. Pity CVS doesn't let you delete directories remotely. You might need a checkout -P too. Pity CVS doesn't version directories. ;) -R

Re: Three address code, named variables

2002-02-15 Thread Robert Eaglestone
> >If people have different opinions on intermediate code generation [...] > > I have been working in a compiler for an intermediate language that I call > P-- (obviously inspired in C--) for now. [...] I find it encouraging and exciting that people are already building useful middlecode on top o

Re-inventing Perl

2002-03-13 Thread Robert Eaglestone
Ok, I'm impatient. Forgive me for saying: At what point could Perl6 development begin? I know, Larry's not done with his Pocky-plickses, and Parrot is but an infant. But surely some bits of perl can be strung soon? Will there be perl development in parallel with parrot development? Rob -- Drâ

Re: [OT] Parrot Logo

2002-03-19 Thread Robert Eaglestone
Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões wrote: > On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 12:13, Andy Wardley wrote: > > > > http://andywardley.com/parrot/ > Critics: > > 2. Aren't parrots more flashy? Good point -- maybe the logo ought to have bright red, solid green, and lovely blues. But then, I like primary

Re: Old Warnock's Dilemma for 'make quicktest'

2002-03-21 Thread Robert Spier
> make quicktest could screw up if: > - you ctrl-c it, or make test (although I haven't had problems with that > yet) during the compilation process at just the right time > - you do anything to invalidate existing .pbc files, such as rearranging > ops. not sure what else could trigger this. > >

Re: Old Warnock's Dilemma for 'make quicktest'

2002-03-25 Thread Robert Spier
>This satisfactory? (I didn't mention it in the README because that's >supposed to be simpler instructions sans caveats, imo) Looks good to me. Thanks, Applied! -R

macros (was Re: string api)

2002-04-08 Thread Robert Spier
> Keep track of global (or interpreter local) scope with a macro > upon entry. I shudder every time someone says "macro" on p6i. perl5 has several thousand macros defined. (grep for ^#define) (over 8000 if you include all the embedding macros. it's down to ~4000 if you cut out embedding, co

Re: macros (was Re: string api)

2002-04-09 Thread Robert Spier
Melvin Smith wrote: > At 10:30 PM 4/8/2002 -0700, Robert Spier wrote: >>> Keep track of global (or interpreter local) scope with a macro >>> upon entry. >> I shudder every time someone says "macro" on p6i. >> perl5 has several thousand macros def

gcc3 issues?

2002-04-13 Thread Robert Spier
Looks like we've got a slew of gcc3 issues (which don't show up on the tinderboxes, cause nobody's running a gcc3 box.) rspier@bear ~/projects/parrot$ make test perl t/harness t/op/basic..ok t/op/bitwiseok t/op/debuginfo..ok t/op/hacks..ok t/op/ifunless...ok t

Re: gcc3 issues?

2002-04-14 Thread Robert Spier
Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 11:47 PM -0700 4/13/02, Robert Spier wrote: >> Looks like we've got a slew of gcc3 issues (which don't show up on the >> tinderboxes, cause nobody's running a gcc3 box.) > What sub-version of GCC 3? 3.0.4 (running on a relatively stoc

Re: gcc3 issues?

2002-04-14 Thread Robert Spier
>>> What sub-version of GCC 3? >> 3.0.4 > > > Damn. Do the failing tests segfault? I didn't look that closely. Some of them definitely are spitting out wrong data. (Very odd.) I didn't notice any Segmentation Fault warnings in the output though, so I'd guess no, unless it's being trapped b

Re: [CONFIGURE] New make.pl coming soon...

2002-04-24 Thread Robert Spier
>Without knowing too much about it, I still have to wonder what is >wrong with cons? I thought it was a fully functional all-perl make >replacement. One reason not to use cons is that we will have to port it to parrot/perl6 in order to become self hosting, another, is that it may not meet all of

Re: [netlabs #541] Newsletter: Something for Everyone !

2002-04-26 Thread Robert Spier
Dear p6i members... Sadly, this piece of spam snuck through our perl.org spam filters and got into the bugtracker which dutifully passed it on to to the mailing list. Please do not report this to us, or pass it to spamcop. Because the full headers aren't in what you recieve

Re: Calling conventions

2002-04-28 Thread Robert Spier
Dan Sugalski writes: >Okay, the first draft of PDD3, calling conventions, is in. Sync up, >rip in, and let fly... :) Also available on the website, http://dev.perl.org/perl6/pdd/, updated daily. -R

Compilation Problems on IRIX

2002-04-28 Thread Robert Spier
MIPSPro is unhappy: http://tinderbox.perl.org/tinderbox/showlog.cgi?log=parrot/1020037080.95964.gz --

The tracker (was Re: [PATCH] sized resource pools)

2002-05-14 Thread Robert Spier
Steve Fink (via RT) writes: >I don't know how easy it is to find this since it only went to the >bugs address, so here's a repeat followup patch to the sized resource >pool patch (I accidentally left this out): New bugs sent to the bugs address are forwarded to the list. Anything on the list wit

Re: The tracker (was Re: [PATCH] sized resource pools)

2002-05-14 Thread Robert Spier
>Is there a 'Superseded' or 'Obsolete' state? It's nice to be able to >tell the difference between a patch that was considered a bad idea or >just succumbed to bit rot, and one that was replaced with an >alternative implementation before making it in. There is now. :) -R

Submitting Patches....

2002-05-15 Thread Robert Spier
When submitting patches through the bugtracker, please do not CC the list as well. (This leads to duplicate tickets, because people reply to the non-managed version and CC the tracker etc.) the bugtracker (http://bugs6.perl.org) automagically sends new tickets to the list. If you have any prob

Re: Submitting Patches....

2002-05-15 Thread Robert Spier
Steve Fink writes: >What about followups? The way I've settled on doing things is to send >only to the bugs address initially, but then reply to both bugs and >the list for any followup correspondence. I know that replying to just >the bugs address isn't enough because it only forwards the initial

Patch List

2002-05-17 Thread Robert Spier
New! See the list of open/patches in the bugtracker. http://www.parrotcode.org/openpatches (Next step is to have tickets where $subject =~ /\[patch\]/i automatically be marked as patches -- so I don't have to do it by hand.) -R

Re: RT bug tracker

2002-05-24 Thread Robert Spier
I've got two things to look at now. Taking/Closing tickets requires me to grant you special access (which I will do if you ask.) I'm going away for the weekend, so I'll take a look at these two issues on monday or tuesday. -R will coleda writes: >Which reminds me: > >I have an account, but

Re: [netlabs #629] [PATCH] Memory manager/garbage collector -major revision

2002-05-28 Thread Robert Spier
>#define PARROT_str_local(d)\ > STRING * d = NULL; \ > frame frame_##d;\ > int dummy_##d = ( \ > (frame_##d.ptr = &d), \ > (frame_##d.next = stack_top), \ > (stack_top = &frame_##d), \ >

Re: [netlabs #629] [PATCH] Memory manager/garbage collector -major revision

2002-05-28 Thread Robert Spier
>What are the debugging issues you mention? Note that this macro will >never fail: there is no pointer deferencing, no memory allocation, ... Never is a bad word to use for anything more complicated than x=1+2. (Which will hopefully get constant folded and optimized away anyway.) It is impossib

[netlabs #594] TEST: are attachments getting through?

2002-05-29 Thread Robert Spier
Apologies for this test, I'm tracking down reports that attachements aren't getting through the list and getting to the bugtracker. -R

Re: [netlabs #594] TEST: are attachments getting through?

2002-05-29 Thread Robert Spier
Apologies again for this test, I'm tracking down reports that attachements aren't getting through the list and getting to the bugtracker. It helps if I actually attach the temp file. temp Description: Binary data

Re: cvs.perl.org moved

2002-06-06 Thread Robert Spier
>Has the CVSROOT changed ? Last November. :) >>cvs checkout parrot > >/home/perlcvs: no such repository >cvs checkout: authorization failed: server cvs.perl.org rejected access to >/home/perlcvs for user anonymous Use /cvs/public -R

Re: PATCH for Win32 lib/Parrot makefile woes

2002-06-06 Thread Robert Spier
Thanks, Applied. Clinton A. Pierce writes: >Fixes the problem where the toplevel makefile can't descend into lib/Parrot >to do the build necessary for PackFile and friends. Also I think the >single cd .. may potentially be a bug for other platforms as well. > >Apply this and re-run Configure.

[netlabs #590] Can't Print the Sequence slash + zero

2002-06-07 Thread Robert Spier
--- start of forwarded message --- Date: 7 Jun 2002 21:36:26 - From: Joe Yates (via RT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Subject: Re: [netlabs #590] Ticket Resolved Message-Id: Dear Daniel, I hope I'm not being a pain. The response to my report was that "This'll

Re: For August

2002-06-10 Thread Robert Spier
I've updated http://www.parrotcode.org/todo with the latest info from Dan. Dan Sugalski writes: >Here's the list 'o stuff I'd like to get done for August: > >*) Multiple interpreters with inter-interpreter calling done right >*) Threads with multiple independent interpreters >*) Method calls >*

Parrot Glossary

2002-06-11 Thread Robert Spier
There's enough words and definitions going by that not everyone understands that it's time for us to have a glossary. I'm willing to do the administrative work of maintaining it, if others send me entries. So... if there are words you think should be in the parrot glossary (the recent discussio

Re: [Patch] other mathematical operations

2002-06-12 Thread Robert Eaglestone
Jeff wrote: >How are we going to get people to write recursive subroutines if we have >a factorial operator? :) > [snip] sub offTopic { Have you seen Arc's factorial? The "short way" is really weird: (rec zero 1 * 1-) But then, the long way is still a bit odd to me, a non-LISPer

glossary

2002-06-20 Thread Robert Spier
The glossary in cvs docs/glossary.pod is now available on the web: http://www.parrotcode.org/glossary

More Tests!

2002-06-20 Thread Robert Spier
We need more tests. According to.. http://www.hitchhiker.org/parrot_coverage/ only 33% of the lines are covered! if something breaks in the other 67%, we'll never know, unless we have tests. -R --

Re: Web info for perl6

2002-06-22 Thread Robert Spier
H.Merijn Brand writes: >http://www.perl.org/perl6 is a bit behind. Anyone care to update and include >apo-5? And Damian's tour info. I've added Apoc 5. Patches for tour info welcome. -R

Re: [netlabs #758] [PATCH] Fixes for example programs

2002-07-03 Thread Robert Spier
>Perhaps it got mangled? Can you send it to me as an attachment? Attachments can also be sent to the tracker. They're handled better now. -R

Parrot Development Resources

2002-07-11 Thread Robert Spier
Since we've had a few new faces around here recently, I thought it would be a good time to remind people about www.parrotcode.org, and specifically the Development Resources page. http://www.parrotcode.org/resources It looks a lot like this, but with links of course... * Perl 6/Parrot Mail

Re: Glossary changes

2002-07-12 Thread Robert Spier
t;picked up on parrotcode.org around 4PM EST by the autogenerator >stuff. (If not, could you give it a thump, Robert, or fill me in on >what needs thumping?) It should thump itself in a little over three hours from now. If glossary updates happen more often, I can drop the cache time down.

Re: Glossary Requests

2002-07-12 Thread Robert Spier
>I've heard reports of rsync not working. I don't use it, so I dunno >there. If someone's got the proper incantation, or follows the >directions and it doesn't work (when you're *sure* you know what >you're doing) I'll update it appropriately. Yes, this seems broken at the moment. I've opene

Re: Glossary Requests

2002-07-12 Thread Robert Spier
>Correct, I don't maintain the site, but I believe Robert has said he would >accept patches. Yes, if people send me updates/diff/new content's, or just "replace this paragraph with this", I'll do the merges. -R

Tracking Patches (was RE: PARROT QUESTIONS: Use the source, Luke)

2002-07-15 Thread Robert Spier
Brent Dax writes: >[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ># Good stuff. Didn't you also send out a draft PDD about how ># types should ># be named and managed in parrot at one point? I, for one, > >At one point I sent out a patch to PDD7 that handled type naming. (I don't know what happened to this specific pa

Over-eager spam filtering runs amuck

2002-07-30 Thread Robert Spier
In my never-ending crusade to try and keep the bug system from passing on lots of spam, some messages have been falsely flagged as spam. Please look at tickets 15748 and 15877. We've done a bunch of tweaking tonight, so hopefully the falsepos count will drop and falseneg count will go up. In g

Re: tutorial on submitting patches

2002-07-31 Thread Robert Spier
John Porter writes: > >Aldo Calpini wrote: >> this is a little tutorial about submitting patches >> (should be added to a FAQ, or somewhere where it's handy > >I think this deserves its own page somewhere on >dev.perl.org. Seems like a good idea. I've added it to the queue. It'll end up on parr

Re: problems sending patches

2002-07-31 Thread Robert Spier
>On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 08:44:20AM -0700, Stephen Rawls wrote: >> The last two (well, the only two :) patches I sent >> were counted as spam. Some of the points were becuase Sorry about that! I'm trying to be better safe than sorry in preventing spam from getting to the list. >> Do the patche

Re: problems sending patches

2002-08-03 Thread Robert Spier
>I don't like spam. Thanks for keeping it out. I try. :) >How do you recruit new "someone"s? I head down to the local mall and hold up a big sign. >Are they the same sort of "someone"s who manage perl5 bugs? Yup. (Or just anyone silly enough to volunteer.) >And (IIRC) Spam Assassin is th

Re: [PATCH?] File deletion

2002-08-29 Thread Robert Spier
Bryan C. Warnock writes: >How does one patch a file to delete? > >docs/a5_draft.html can go away now, thank you for playing. rm cvs delete cvs commit

Re: Mode a la mode

2002-08-29 Thread Robert Spier
Bryan C. Warnock writes: >There is a general inconsistency about file permissions throughout the >parrot tree. > >Of the 80+ *.pl scripts, only 8 are 0755 - and Configure.pl isn't one of >them. Some tests are, some aren't; and even some docs are. A list >follows. These have to be fixed in the re

Re: About core.ops patch and pasm syntax

2002-09-07 Thread Robert Spier
>Ok then, [perl #16934] is unvalid, it should be removed from rt unless >we want its syntax as an alternative to the correct way. The removal process looks like: set patch status to "Rejected" (and make sure to send an email with a reason) Change ticket state to resolved. -R

Re: [perl #17194] ScanMail Message: To Sender, action taken by attachment blocking.

2002-09-12 Thread Robert Spier
>> xScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked a file xattachment(s). >is getting trying. Do we have any official public LARTing policy on >braindead systems that mail back to the list? There are too many to properly LART. When I see them, I add them to the Spam filters. Right now we've got 1

Open Patch Status

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Spier
http://www.parrotcode.org/openpatches There are a _lot_ of Pending patches. Within a few weeks, I hope to have an automated email nudging about this weekly. -R (801) [PATCH] PerlArray in scalar context Pending (15345) [PATCH] Generating assemble.pl Pending (15574) [PATCH] RECALL renamed to

Re: Open Patch Status

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Spier
> Here's a couple more that I just stumbled across - they've not been > picked up automatically because they don't have [PATCH] in the header. > (16077) 'assign' opcode and unmorphing > (16098) First draft of PerlScalar PMC I've tagged them both as patches, so they'll show up in the list now. -R

Re: [xperl #x17733] Net::Telnet - Problem on HP-UX

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Spier
George (via RT) writes: ># New Ticket Created by George ># Please include the string: [perl #17733] ># in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. ># http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=17733 > Grumble. This guy sent this to the wrong email address. I've boun

Re: the getting started guide

2002-10-08 Thread Robert Spier
>Well here it is, my first attempt at a "getting started" guide. It's >not ready for public consumption, but I would like to hear some When this stabilizes, we can make it available on www.parrotcode.org >I plan to have a lot more diagrams in the document. I am using 'dia' >to create them. I

Re: the getting started guide

2002-10-08 Thread Robert Spier
>2.) You mention getting a Perl distribution for Windows, but don't metnion >getting a C compiler. > I would recommend saying something about CygWin (www.cygwin.com) or >perhaps a dos based C compiler. cvs, perl, and make all become non-issues >when CygWin is added to the mix; although perfo

Re: the getting started guide

2002-10-09 Thread Robert Spier
>I'll see about getting some of the internal structures diagrammed >better, which is the only place things are a little dodgy, but that's >otherwise fine. Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dropped me an email and reminded me about AutoDia http://droogs.org/autodia/ >Now, here's hoping CVS doesn't

Re: the getting started guide

2002-10-09 Thread Robert Spier
>>So the html is canonical and you're converting it to pod? I'm >> confused. >I am writing it in my own format. It lets me take notes, write todo >lists, autogenerate the table of contents and glossary. Then I run it >through some perl that currently spits out html and almost make pod. Whatev

Re: the getting started guide

2002-10-12 Thread Robert Spier
>4)How do I get pod2html to give me html that looks like the docs on >http://www.parrotcode.org/docs/? Ha! :) We're using a slightly tweaked (by Graham Barr for search.cpan.org) version of POD::POM and a stylesheet. You can find the stylesheet here: http://dev.perl.org/perl-styles.css Onc

Re: [perl #17903] [PATCH] sprintf test

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Spier
Steve Fink writes: >> >I don't know exactly who has the permissions to do these things, but >> >I'm pretty sure that if you have commit access then you also have RT >> >futzing access. ^^^ this isn't true. The permissions are seperate (but obviously should be related.) -R

Re: [perl #x17936] [PATCH] MANIFEST

2002-10-21 Thread Robert Spier
>I just wanted to obsolete this Patch, because the missing files now >have entered the MANIFEST. But bugs6.perl.org only tells me "Permission >denied". Im logged in, and the bugtracker recognizes this patch as >mine. I've tweaked the permissions, try again. -R

Re: [perl x18078] Patty's login stuff

2002-10-24 Thread Robert Spier
Obviously spam, sorry folks. It snuck in under the spam filters. X-Spam-Status: No, hits=5.3 required=7.0 tests=CARRIAGE_RETURNS,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,MISSING_HEADERS,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,TO_EMPTY version=2.41 -R (pondering his next move in the unending war against spa

CVSMonitor Upgrade

2002-10-30 Thread Robert Spier
I've upgraded the experimental perl.org cvsmonitor implementation. It's very cool. Take a peek: http://rt.perl.org/cgi-bin/cvsmonitor/cvsmonitor.pl?cmd=viewModule&module=perl_public.parrot -or- http://snipurl.com/9hn It gets updated once a day, around 3 AM Pacific time, AKA 6 AM Eastern Time

Re: Perl 6 Bugs List

2002-11-17 Thread Robert Spier
chromatic writes: >I've submitted three bugs for Perl 6 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They're in >RT, but they haven't been announced on this group. I believe Allison >has asked Ask to look into this. Well, since I'm the RT owner, you and she should have asked me, or even better, the bugs6-admin at perl.

Re: Directory renaming

2002-11-29 Thread Robert Spier
Nicholas Clark writes: >On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 06:22:56PM +0100, Jerome Quelin wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Would it be possible to rename the $PARROT/languages/Befunge-93 >> directory into $PARROT/languages/befunge ? >> Indeed, as soon as parrot will support objects, I'll implement the >> befunge 98

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