Re: No Autoconf, dammit!

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Schwebel
the necessary bits for ARM to have a proof of concept. Robert -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 Hornemannstraße 12, 31137 Hildesheim, Germany Phone

Re: No Autoconf, dammit!

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 11:23:36AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: > No offense, but it *doesn't* *matter*. We're not using autoconf, as > the subject of this thread makes clear. That's not negotiable. A really convincing argumentation. Robert -- Dipl.-Ing. R

Re: No Autoconf, dammit!

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Schwebel
the system, so working in less situations and being incompatible. Robert -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 Hornemannstraße 12, 31137 Hildesheim, Germany Phone: +49-5121-28619-0 | Fax: +49-5121-28619-4

Re: No Autoconf, dammit!

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Schwebel
do a complete perl build on something like my 30 MHz ARM7 :-) It seems to be a little bit strange to me that the ability to be compiled on prehistoric systems seems to be more important than a correct cross compiler environment. Robert -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutron

Re: No Autoconf, dammit!

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Schwebel
; take suggestions or wholesale direction here. Well, I still don't understand what the _technical_ arguments against autotools are, besides not being written by LW ;) Some pro arguments: - runs on about all available platforms today, configure written in sh - does proper cross compil

Re: No Autoconf, dammit!

2004-09-07 Thread Robert Schwebel
l in this case run on i686. Robert -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 Hornemannstraße 12, 31137 Hildesheim, Germany Phone: +49-5121-28619-0 | Fax: +49-5121-28619-4

Re: No-C, no programming project: Some configure investigation

2004-09-07 Thread Robert Schwebel
he time when perl 5 started metaconfig was surely a good thing, but I doubt it can do what autotools is able to manage today. But that's probably a political decision. Robert -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry

Re: No-C, no programming project: Some configure investigation

2004-09-07 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:00:14PM +0200, Jens Rieks wrote: > On Tuesday 07 September 2004 07:52, Robert Schwebel wrote: > > Would autoconf/automake be an option for the C part of parrot? > No, its only available on a few systems. How do you mean that? You surely don't want to

Re: No-C, no programming project: Some configure investigation

2004-09-06 Thread Robert Schwebel
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 07:26:22AM +0200, Robert Schwebel wrote: > If I can help testing cross compilation stuff please tell me. > Unfortunately I don't know enough of the Perl/Parrot internals to be > really useful for coding, but anyway. Would autoconf/automake be an option for

Re: No-C, no programming project: Some configure investigation

2004-09-06 Thread Robert Schwebel
7;t know enough of the Perl/Parrot internals to be really useful for coding, but anyway. Being able to use Perl on embedded systems would be pretty cool - it was never really possible with perl 5. Robert -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Scien

Cross Compiling parrot?

2004-09-01 Thread Robert Schwebel
Parrot::Configure::RunSteps::runsteps('Parrot::Configure::RunSteps', 'cc', 'arm-softfloat-linux-gnu-gcc', 'ld', 'arm-softfloat-linux-gnu-gcc', 'debugging', 1) called at Configure.pl line 376 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/parrot> --8&l