Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 02:13:46PM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > > Well yah! Perl6 array indeed. It also reminds me of PDL. i like the > > data model. It looks like FAME done right. > > Are you suggesting we borrow some features of it? Tak

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 01:51:02PM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > > Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? > > Well, I found Kdb nothing awesome... The K language I thought it's a > somewhat interesting, specially the part on "bu

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:16:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 09:36 AM 2/9/2001 -0500, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > >Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? > > What about it? Looks like yet another semi-specialized relational database > company. (With a far

kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? -- May the best description of competition prevail. (via, but not speaking for Deutsche Bank)

Rare Salt-Water Camel May Be Separate Species

2001-02-07 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/07/science/07reuters-camel.html -- May the best description of competition prevail. (via, but not speaking for Deutsche Bank)

Re: Thought for the day

2001-02-01 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:52:36PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Once one starts reading more quotations one will find that quotations > get misquoted, shortened, misattributed, rewritten, more than you > really wanted to believe. Some persons seem to be 'quotation > sponges', everything witt

Re: Supporting architectures without native C support (was Re: Meta-design)

2000-12-11 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 05:06:27AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Because the Python folks didn't have a problem basing JPython off of > > CPython. > > Actually, this one isn't a good comparison. Python is substantially easier > to parse, and, is a much simpler language. I like Perl becaus

Fwd: Update on C--

2000-12-08 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:55:25 -0800 Subject: Update on C-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentle C-- colleagues This message is just to update you on the state of play in C--. Please do send mail to the l

stackless python

2000-10-20 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/python/2000/10/04/stackless-intro.html -- May the best description of competition prevail. (via, but not speaking for Deutsche Bank)

autogen

2000-10-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
http://autogen.sourceforge.net/ Maybe everyone knows about this already but I didn't know about it until just now. Enjoy. -- May the best description of competition prevail. (via, but not speaking for Deutsche Bank)

Re: data storage and representation when designing bytecode (and VM)

2000-10-03 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 02:37:13PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 12:27 PM 10/3/00 -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > >Serializing an optree is rather tricky especially if one wants to > >deserialize it on a different platform. Because of icky things like > >structure padding one effectively

Re: Perl Implementation Language

2000-09-11 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:09:41PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Currently I'm thinking C for the target compiler just because of its > ubiquity. I don't think it matters much. Any language similar to C (or C itself) is fine. The ticklish part is garbage collection, exceptions, and the for

Re: a garbage collection book

2000-08-30 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:15:39PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I didn't realize until I read through parts of this exactly how much time a > refcounting GC scheme took. Between that and perl 5's penchant for > flattening arrays and hashes (which creates a lot of garbage itself for > biggi

Re: WAP-enabled cellular furbie

2000-08-24 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 03:49:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 07:28 PM 8/24/00 +, Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: > >When a Palm "is" a WAP Phone it will have one, and while Teddy Bears may > >not I am sure Furbie-II will... > > I'm picturing a WAP-enabled cellular furbie with an R2D2-style

Re: Method call optimization.

2000-08-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 10:16:03AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 10:01 AM 8/9/00 -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote: > >But for the generic object. The package itself can contain an indirection > >table. This would be that sparse table with the offset in the object vtbl. > > That's going to be a v

Re: Microsoft

2000-08-03 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:54:46AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But how do you explain the fact that S. P. Jones uses Latex and cygwin? > > Easily. He is the hacker, not the supervisor. > > It's pretty evid

Re: C--

2000-08-03 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:30:40AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm not sure about this one. My odds-on favorite answer: Picture some > M$ hackers telling their supervisor they are working on some GCC > enhancements. But how do you explain the fact that S. P. Jones uses Latex and cygwin?

Re: C--

2000-08-03 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:33:25AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ... Quickie summary. Implementations: one[1] semi-free > (non-DFSG-compliant) complete. Others in progress. > > Why not specify as a C extension: I'm still looking for that. The following paper is recommended over the one pos

C--

2000-08-03 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
A few more clicks and I found: http://www.cminusminus.org/ -- May the best description of competition prevail. (via, but not speaking for Deutsche Bank)

Re: C# (.NET) has no interpreters

2000-08-03 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:32:10AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:30:23PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'd prefer us to tackle native code generation using C as the > > >

Re: Automatic code generation

2000-08-03 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 06:19:33PM -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Since no-one has mentioned it yet, I just thought I'd point out that the > Perl Data Language (PDL) has a system for automatically generating XS code > from a "simpler" interface called PDL::PP. Good point. Thanks for mentioni

Re: C# (.NET) has no interpreters

2000-08-03 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:30:23PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > > perl5 is interpreter-centric with native code generation > > bolted on well into the development lifecycle. > > I'd prefer us to tackle native code generation using C as t

Re: what will be in Perl6 ?

2000-08-03 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:40:09PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:57:27AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > > http://windows.oreilly.com/news/hejlsberg_0800.html > > Impressive. Quite deeply impressive. Careful! Don't be overwhelmed by the marketing spin. Don't under

Re: GC

2000-08-02 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 04:38:12PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can I safely assume that we will be counting references for garbage > collection? Well, for starters. However, I'd like to see a distinction made between destructors that must run at the end of a scope, and those lacking an urg

Re: interpreter performance

2000-08-02 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 04:13:50PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'd also like to teach PI (or whatever it becomes) to produce joined > opcodes. Ilya did some profiling of perl 5 code, and there were a bunch of > common op pairs. Joining them together (thus saving both dispatch time > *and*

Re: C# (.NET) has no interpreters

2000-08-02 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 09:01:18PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 12:20:00PM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: > > Ken Fox writes: > > > pipeline stalls, cache misses and a whole bunch of interesting things. One > > > of the reasons Perl performed well is that it spent a l

Re: what is PI?

2000-08-02 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 09:42:16PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 08:39:05AM -0400, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > > Ah! PI is a great idea. Why not dump as much intelligence as possible > > into PI? > > Because it'll make using a source lev

Re: what is PI?

2000-08-02 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 12:47:25PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >I've heard rumors about PI -- Perl Implementation language. What is it? > > Well PI is what Chip was calling his OO-in-C pre-processor before Topaz &

Re: inline mania

2000-08-01 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:55:09PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Non-inline functions have their place in reducing code size > >and easing debugging. I just want an i_foo for every foo that callers > >will have the option of using. > > Before we make any promises to do all that extra work c

what is PI?

2000-08-01 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
I've heard rumors about PI -- Perl Implementation language. What is it? -- Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity. (via, but not speaking for Deutsche Bank)