Re: Threads... last call

2004-01-29 Thread Gordon Henriksen
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 11:55 , Melvin Smith wrote: At 11:45 PM 1/28/2004 -0500, Gordon Henriksen wrote: On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 12:53 , Melvin Smith wrote: At 12:27 PM 1/23/2004 -0800, Damien Neil wrote: Java Collections are a standard Java library of common data structur

Re: Messages delayed, out of order

2004-01-29 Thread Gordon Henriksen
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 09:12 , Matt Fowles wrote: I have been getting out of order messages from this list for months... I just assumed that the internet was a mysterious thing... Methinks the list is also manually moderated — Gordon Henriksen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [DOCS] Updated documentation in src

2004-01-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ another TOFU [1] ] AOL leo > Mike~ > You rock. That is really nice. > Matt > Michael Scott wrote: >> I've add inline docs to everything in src (except for malloc.c and >> malloc-trace.c). >> >> At times I wondered whether this was the right thing to

Re: Messages delayed, out of order

2004-01-29 Thread Matt Fowles
I have been getting out of order messages from this list for months... I just assumed that the internet was a mysterious thing... Matt Will Coleda wrote: On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Simon Cozens wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Coleda) writes: What's going on with the ordering

Re: Messages delayed, out of order

2004-01-29 Thread Will Coleda
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Simon Cozens wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Coleda) writes: What's going on with the ordering of messages? My message of : Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:53:15 -0500 just made it to the list, a day after my (also delayed) /followup/ to that message. And Leo, who

Re: Some namespace notes

2004-01-29 Thread Luke Palmer
Jeff Clites writes: > We could certainly do some sort of language-specific prefixing, as Tim > suggested, but it seems that we are then going to trouble to unify, > only to immediately de-unify. Certainly, a random Java programmer > shouldn't have to worry about naming a class so that it doesn't

Re: Threads... last call

2004-01-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Melvin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought we were discussing correct behavior of a shared data structure, > not general cases. Or maybe this is the general case and I should > go read more backlog? :) Basically we have three kinds of locking: - HLL user level locking [1] - user level lo

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Elizabeth Mattijsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:40 +0100 1/28/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: >>$ time parrot shared_ref.pasm >> >>real0m0.375s > Ah.. I want a Ponie! ;-) Actually some bits are still missing: - The SharedRef construction code has to ensure that the refered PMC is share

Re: [DOCS] Updated documentation in src

2004-01-29 Thread Matt Fowles
Mike~ You rock. That is really nice. Matt Michael Scott wrote: I've add inline docs to everything in src (except for malloc.c and malloc-trace.c). At times I wondered whether this was the right thing to do. For example, in mmd.c, where Dan had already created a mmd.pod, I ended up duplicati

Re: IO subsystem stuff

2004-01-29 Thread Jeff Clites
On Jan 27, 2004, at 3:47 PM, Cory Spencer wrote: Perhaps someone with a bit more familiarity with the Parrot IO subsystem could give me some guidance here. I'm currently trying to get a new 'peek' opcode working, and I'm having difficulties getting the io_unix layer implemented correctly. As fa

Re: Messages delayed, out of order

2004-01-29 Thread Harry Jackson
Simon Cozens wrote: I think the mail servers for cpan.org/perl.org are having to shift rather a lot of mail at the moment, for some reason. For those that are unaware there is currently a rather serious virus in the wild at the moment and a lot of mailing lists are being afffected. I think its ca

Re: Threads... last call

2004-01-29 Thread Melvin Smith
At 11:45 PM 1/28/2004 -0500, Gordon Henriksen wrote: On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 12:53 , Melvin Smith wrote: At 12:27 PM 1/23/2004 -0800, Damien Neil wrote: Java Collections are a standard Java library of common data structures such as arrays and hashes. Collections are not synchronized;

Re: Some namespace notes

2004-01-29 Thread Jeff Clites
On Jan 28, 2004, at 6:42 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:00:53 -0800, Jeff Clites wrote: I think we shouldn't try to do any sort of cross-language unification. That is, if we some day have a Parrot version of Java, and in Perl6 code I want to reference a global created inside of s

Re: Messages delayed, out of order

2004-01-29 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Coleda) writes: > What's going on with the ordering of messages? My message of : Tue, 27 Jan 2004 > 19:53:15 -0500 just made it to the list, a day after my (also delayed) /followup/ to > that message. And Leo, who responded to the most recent, had his email make it to > t

Messages delayed, out of order

2004-01-29 Thread Will Coleda
What's going on with the ordering of messages? My message of : Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:53:15 -0500 just made it to the list, a day after my (also delayed) /followup/ to that message. And Leo, who responded to the most recent, had his email make it to the list before either of these. =-) Regards.

[DOCS] Updated documentation in src

2004-01-29 Thread Michael Scott
I've add inline docs to everything in src (except for malloc.c and malloc-trace.c). At times I wondered whether this was the right thing to do. For example, in mmd.c, where Dan had already created a mmd.pod, I ended up duplicating information. At other times I reckoned that what was needed was

Re: t/src/extend.t hanging, and a (probably not very good) patch

2004-01-29 Thread Jeffrey Dik
Hi, I'll look into what's involved with upgrading. I'm not sure if I'll elect to do it or not. It's probably the one major upgrade to a linux system that I've never done so I'd like to do it as a learning experience. At the same time, I've heard it can be painful. And downloading anything with

internal exception handlers

2004-01-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
We have some places in code, where we have to cleanup, if an internal exception was thrown, e.g. after LOCK()ing a mutex or in classes/delegate.pmc to free the saved memory structure. Attached is a test program with some macros allowing code like: TRY { some(); } CATCH { clean_up(

Re: IMCC - PerlArray getting trounced

2004-01-29 Thread Will Coleda
Sorry about the delay in responding. My current sample program is 2760 lines of imcc in 23 files, plus a small .tcl script. I'll see if I can trim that down to a more reasonable test case. On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 05:32 AM, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Will Coleda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Threads... last call

2004-01-29 Thread Damien Neil
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 12:53:09PM -0500, Melvin Smith wrote: > At 12:27 PM 1/23/2004 -0800, Damien Neil wrote: > >Java Collections are a standard Java library of common data structures > >such as arrays and hashes. Collections are not synchronized; access > >involves no locks at all. Multiple th

Re: Threads... last call

2004-01-29 Thread Gordon Henriksen
On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 12:53 , Melvin Smith wrote: At 12:27 PM 1/23/2004 -0800, Damien Neil wrote: Java Collections are a standard Java library of common data structures such as arrays and hashes. Collections are not synchronized; access involves no locks at all. Multiple threads