Re: Dan's status

2003-02-03 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski wrote: Tomorrow (tuesday) I'm heading out to Seabastapol CA for a week-long perl 6 design get-together thingie. When you are on it, please - again - have a look at our current string behaviour. Keywords are: string_set, string header reusing, 50 % more performance with life cy

The 2004 performance challenge is on!

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
Folks, I made a bet with Guido van Rossum that Parrot'd be faster at executing a pure python benchmark of some sort (to be determined) with the challenge details announced at OSCON 2003 and the results tried at OSCON 2004. If I lose, I owe Guido $10 and a round of beer for the zope/pythonlabs

Re: Objects, methods, attributes, properties, and other related frobnitzes

2003-02-03 Thread Jerome Quelin
Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 8:39 PM +0100 2/3/03, Jerome Quelin wrote: > >Dan Sugalski wrote: > >> *) Property: A named thing attached to an object. Properties are > >> global to the object and public--i.e. there's no implicit hiding, > >> namespaces, or whatnot. There can be only one foo property

Re: Objects, methods, attributes, properties, and other related frobnitzes

2003-02-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:15:32PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: > *) Method: Some sort of action that an object can do. Methods are > global and public--only one foo method for an object. Methods may be > inherited from parent classes, or redefined in a particular class. > Redefined methods hide

Re: Objects, methods, attributes, properties, and other related frobnitzes

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 8:48 PM +0100 2/3/03, Jerome Quelin wrote: Dan Sugalski wrote: At 8:39 PM +0100 2/3/03, Jerome Quelin wrote: >Dan Sugalski wrote: >> *) Property: A named thing attached to an object. Properties are >> global to the object and public--i.e. there's no implicit hiding, >> namespaces, or w

Re: [RfD] parrot run loops

2003-02-03 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski wrote: At 10:07 AM +0100 1/30/03, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Changing the addressing scheme to opcode offsets relative to code The big problem with this is you're increasing non-local call performance for normal running. I don't think this is a good idea--while you'll save maybe 50

Re: Objects, methods, attributes, properties, and other related frobnitzes

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 8:39 PM +0100 2/3/03, Jerome Quelin wrote: Dan Sugalski wrote: *) Property: A named thing attached to an object. Properties are global to the object and public--i.e. there's no implicit hiding, namespaces, or whatnot. There can be only one foo property on an object, for example [...] Th

Re: Objects, methods, attributes, properties, and other related frobnitzes

2003-02-03 Thread Jerome Quelin
Dan Sugalski wrote: > *) Property: A named thing attached to an object. Properties are > global to the object and public--i.e. there's no implicit hiding, > namespaces, or whatnot. There can be only one foo property on an > object, for example [...] > The interpreter must handle class hierarchy stu

Re: Objects, methods, attributes, properties, and other related frobnitzes

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 6:25 PM + 2/3/03, Andy Wardley wrote: Dan Sugalski wrote much sense, including these gems: *) Method: Some sort of action that an object can do. Methods are global and public--only one foo method for an object. Methods may be inherited from parent classes, or redefined in a particular c

RE: Objects, methods, attributes, properties, and other related frobnitzes

2003-02-03 Thread Jonathan Sillito
> -Original Message- > From: Andy Wardley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Wardley > > Dan Sugalski wrote much sense, including these gems: > > *) Method: Some sort of action that an object can do. Methods are > > global and public--only one foo method for an object. Methods ma

Re: Objects, methods, attributes, properties, and other related frobnitzes

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Wardley
Dan Sugalski wrote much sense, including these gems: > *) Method: Some sort of action that an object can do. Methods are > global and public--only one foo method for an object. Methods may be > inherited from parent classes, or redefined in a particular class. > Redefined methods hide parent cla

Dan's status

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
Okay, I figure it's time for a quick status report from me, since I've been missing from the list of late and it's been showing. (Leo's been doing grand things but at some point he's going to run out of old mistakes of mine and'll need new ones to work with :) Tomorrow (tuesday) I'm heading out

Objects, methods, attributes, properties, and other related frobnitzes

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
Okay, just to get some stuff defined and the problem space sorted before I try and work on it: Definitions: *) Object: An opaque thingie with properties, attributes, and methods *) Property: A named thing attached to an object. Properties are global to the object and public--i.e.

Re: [RfD] parrot run loops

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:07 AM +0100 1/30/03, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Changing the addressing scheme to opcode offsets relative to code start would simplify all kinds of (non local) control flow changes. As real world programs mostly consists of such subroutine calls, these would be simplified a lot (and would then n

native compile test results

2003-02-03 Thread Leopold Toetsch
The last 3 commits made native compiled PBCs (via pbc2c.pl) run a little bit better: Failed TestStat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed --- t/op/hacks.t 1 256 31 33.33% 1 t/op/integer.t4 10

Re: XML output of parse tree for Jako

2003-02-03 Thread gregor
James -- I'm open to other ideas. I've toyed with learning DAML and RDF for some ontology stuff I'm interested in, but so far I haven't had the mental "click" that would make me feel comfortable working with them. I do have a good comfort level with XML in general. I am pondering the sorts of tr

Re: XML output of parse tree for Jako

2003-02-03 Thread James Michael DuPont
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just committed some changes to the Jako compiler that add a '-x' > switch. Using jakoc -x will cause the compiler to emit the parse tree > as XML (via SAX events sent to XML::Handler::YAWriter). > Sounds interesting. I have to look into this, i have dropped xml i

XML output of parse tree for Jako

2003-02-03 Thread gregor
I just committed some changes to the Jako compiler that add a '-x' switch. Using jakoc -x will cause the compiler to emit the parse tree as XML (via SAX events sent to XML::Handler::YAWriter). It still has some worts, but it didn't die when I turned it loose on the Jako examples. There are a few

[perl #20666] Assemble.pl Reports Incorrect Line Numbers after Removal of Macros

2003-02-03 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Joe Yates # Please include the string: [perl #20666] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=20666 > Line numbers reported by Assemble.pl are array indices AFTER the removal of macros. This