Re: [Module::Build] Re: META.yml feature for autotesters?

2006-02-25 Thread Ken Williams
On Feb 24, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So while we are on the subject of META.yml, I think the dynamic_config approach is horrible, because it defaults to an efficient error case and relies on the author to fix the error, rather than de

Re: CPAN and META.yml: no_index dir vs directory

2006-07-05 Thread Ken Williams
On Jul 5, 2006, at 7:47 PM, David Golden wrote: Some potential options: (a) Add "directory" as a synonym to the spec and add "dir" as something that CPAN sites recognize. (b) Change the spec to "directory" -- if CPAN sites are the only real user of META.yml no_index, then the pain should

Re: Indeterminate math

2002-10-15 Thread Ken Williams
On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 07:05 AM, Michael G Schwern wrote: > This came up at YAPC::Europe. Someone [1] wanted to know if 1/0 would > produce a divide by zero error in Perl 6, or if it would return a value > representing an indeterminate result (undef?) It would make more sense > for

Re: Indeterminate math

2002-10-15 Thread Ken Williams
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 04:44 AM, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: > People have used the terms "error" and "exception" interchangably in > this disucssion. To me, an "error" is something that stops program > execution while an "exception" may or may not stop execution depending > on what

Re: Phalanxing MakeMaker

2005-02-24 Thread Ken Williams
On Feb 23, 2005, at 6:08 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: For any brave Phalanx folks who wish to target MakeMaker I can point you at some critically deficient areas of its testing. 1) XS. There is absolutely no testing of XS code. The primary problem is determining if the user has a working buil

Re: Phalanxing MakeMaker

2005-03-04 Thread Ken Williams
On Mar 4, 2005, at 4:07 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:47:31AM -0600, Ken Williams wrote: Better would be to snark it from ExtUtils::CBuilder, which has a has_compiler() method. How portable is this? I see there's some minimal VMS and OS/2 code in there, will it wor

Re: [Module::Build] Re: Test::META

2005-03-29 Thread Ken Williams
On Mar 28, 2005, at 6:21 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote: I think someone had proposed a year or two ago that there should be a test_requires options and I argued against it. Now, I think maybe it was a good idea; especially, since the number of extra testing modules being used have increased a lot over

Re: [Module::Build] Re: Test::META

2005-04-01 Thread Ken Williams
On Mar 30, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 05:53:37PM -0500, Randy W. Sims wrote: Should we completely open this up so that requires/recommends/conflicts can be applied to any action? install_recommends => ... testcover_requires => ... etc. This sounds useful an

Re: [Module::Build] Re: Test::META

2005-04-01 Thread Ken Williams
On Mar 29, 2005, at 10:44 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote: Michael G Schwern wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 08:33:48PM -0500, Randy W. Sims wrote: A quickie sample implementation to add more meat. I didn't apply yet mainly because I'm wondering if we shouldn't bail and do a complete roll-back (eg. don't

Re: [Module::Build] Re: Test::META

2005-04-01 Thread Ken Williams
On Apr 1, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Christopher H. Laco wrote: If build, test, and install are considered the critical path, why was Build/make never changed to simple run "test" always as part of the builds success or failure? Just curious. In a way, I'd be much happier if 'perl Build' or 'make' outri

Re: How to force tests to issue "NA" reports?

2005-04-07 Thread Ken Williams
On Apr 6, 2005, at 7:13 AM, Robert Rothenberg wrote: Is there a way tests to determine that a module cannot be installed on a platform so that CPANPLUS or CPAN::YACSmoke can issue an "NA" (Not Applicable) report? CPANPLUS relies on module names (e.g. "Solaris::" or "Win32::") but that is not al

Re: How to force tests to issue "NA" reports?

2005-04-08 Thread Ken Williams
On Apr 8, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: die "NA: $reason"; Since, at the moment, we're having trouble putting together a system to cover the possible reasons for an NA report let the module author figure it out. Its simple and minimal. I like it. -Ken

Re: [Module::Build] Re: Test::META

2005-03-30 Thread Ken Williams
On Mar 30, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote: Should we completely open this up so that requires/recommends/conflicts can be applied to any action? install_recommends => ... testcover_requires => ... etc. I like it. But for some reason I find it a little scary. Doing this would require a lit

Re: Distributed testing idea

2004-02-18 Thread Ken Williams
Some thoughts: 1) In order to be convenient for the code author, he/she should be able to poll for available clients before submitting a job. My inclination would be to make this a simple inetd on the client, rather than any persistent connection between client & server. I think if there were