Re: Concurrency: hypothetical variables and atomic blocks

2006-06-01 Thread Ruud H.G. van Tol
Darren Duncan schreef: > Each time a context (a code block, either a routine or a syntactic > construct like 'try' is) is entered that is marked 'is atomic', a new > transaction begins, which as a whole can later be committed or rolled > back; it implicitly commits if that context is exited normal

Re: Minimum modules for Production?

2006-06-01 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
However, as has been pointed out regarding MS Word, most users only use a very tiny subset of its functionality. The problem is that the users are using different subsets. I've done huge amounts of HTML parsing and can't recall having used GDBM_File. It all comes to *different* subsets I

Re: Fwd: Minimum modules for Production?

2006-06-01 Thread Josh Wilmes
I think that the "distribution" approach is a good way to go. I also think that there could be value in a set of "core" modules for some basic functions. The only reason to do this, however, would be to design those modules to work especially well together. These modules could follow tighte

RE: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-06-01 Thread Conrad Schneiker
Does anyone out there have any phone numbers for key contacts at The Perl Foundation that you could send to me off-list? So far, I've not heard back from anyone there. TIA. Best regards, Conrad Schneiker http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6_Users_FAQ (Moved from AthenaLab to Perl 6 Wiki.) www.AthenaLa

Re: Fwd: Minimum modules for Production?

2006-06-01 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 06:56:14PM -0400, Josh Wilmes wrote: > Of course there's still the question of what modules would belong in such > a list. I think that modules for debugging, compilation and deployment, > exception handling, threading, basic I/O (which includes LWP nowadays) would > p

Re: Minimum modules for Production?

2006-06-01 Thread Fagyal Csongor
Hi, However, as has been pointed out regarding MS Word, most users only use a very tiny subset of its functionality. The problem is that the users are using different subsets. I've done huge amounts of HTML parsing and can't recall having used GDBM_File. It all comes to *different* subset

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-06-01 Thread Ovid
Hi Conrad, I run the grant committee for the Perl Foundation and I sit on the steering committee, so I suppose I can discuss your proposal (there are some other TPF folk here, too, so that's why this is a public email). Also, the following stuff is just off the top of my head and is in no way

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-06-01 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Jun 1, 2006, at 6:45, Ovid wrote: In any event, if you can come up with a solid set of contest rules, TPF can consider whether or not we can officially run the contest. It sounds like a nice idea, I just don't know what's involved. I wouldn't claim to entirely comprehend the rules, but

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-06-01 Thread Fagyal Csongor
Hi, Hi Conrad, I run the grant committee for the Perl Foundation and I sit on the steering committee, so I suppose I can discuss your proposal (there are some other TPF folk here, too, so that's why this is a public email). Also, the following stuff is just off the top of my head and is in

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-06-01 Thread Andy_Bach
How about something a little less mercenary - a 1000$ donation to the Perl Foundation/Perl 6 development in the winner's name from Athena Labs? Might take out some of the difficulty and, who knows, get you a better wiki (you know, the less immediately reward driven programmer or something

Re: [perl #38964] .sub names can't be Unicode.

2006-06-01 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Apr 23, 2006, at 3:43, Will Coleda (via RT) wrote: .sub unicode:"\u" print "ok\n" .end This should be ok now as well as calling the sub, sub.t is passing again with r12863. More tests e.g. method calls are very welcome. leo

Re: Stepping Away.

2006-06-01 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On May 30, 2006, at 22:44, Andy Dougherty wrote: I will be stepping away from Parrot for the foreseeable future. Many thanks for all the contributions to parrot. leo

Re: Concurrency: hypothetical variables and atomic blocks

2006-06-01 Thread Larry Wall
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 11:52:59AM +1200, Sam Vilain wrote: : The lock on entry approach will only be for non-threaded interpreters : that don't know how to do real STM. The way I see it, the fundamental difference is that with ordinary locking, you're locking in real time, whereas with STM you po

Re: Concurrency: hypothetical variables and atomic blocks

2006-06-01 Thread Jonathan Lang
Larry Wall wrote: The way I see it, the fundamental difference is that with ordinary locking, you're locking in real time, whereas with STM you potentially have the ability to virtualize time to see if there's a way to order the locks in virtual time such that they still make sense. Then you jus

Re: Concurrency: hypothetical variables and atomic blocks

2006-06-01 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 02:22:12PM -0700, Jonathan Lang wrote: > Larry Wall wrote: > >The way I see it, the fundamental difference is that with ordinary > >locking, you're locking in real time, whereas with STM you potentially > >have the ability to virtualize time to see if there's a way to order

Re: Running individual unit tests with Test::Class???

2006-06-01 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* Adrian Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-31T10:55:20] > In short > * Yes running one test method at a time is a sensible things to do. > * No - there currently isn't a simple way of doing this > * Good news - Ovid has submitted a patch to make it easy > * Bad news - I've been too bone idle to a