Hi all,
On 2 Apr 2006, at 01:04, Jeffrey Thalhammer wrote:
I have never actually had an opportunity to practice
this, but I've always felt that the most obvious way
to combine test-driven development with pair
programming was to have one person write test code
while the other person writes appl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
> Author: autrijus
> Date: Sun Apr 16 18:24:04 2006
> New Revision: 8724
>
> Modified:
>doc/trunk/design/syn/S06.pod
>doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod
>
> Log:
> * more typo cleanups promted by Dr. Ruud.
I love tradition: s/mt/mpt
;)
> -The unary prefix operator C<
On Apr 17, 2006, at 0:02, Nicholas Clark wrote:
I think Dan was thinking that internally everything should be fixed
width,
and for practical reasons pick the smallest of 8 bit, UCS-16 and UCS-32
internally. Convert variable width to fixed width (losslessly) the
first time
you need to do anyt
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:02, chromatic wrote:
What should the syntax for creating new objects be? That is, if I
define an
object with its methods in the namespace [ 'PAST'; 'Node' ], how do I
create
a new instance of that class?
.local pmc node
node = new ???
.namespace ['PAS
On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:34, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
But: I see extensive use of PMC_(struct|pmc|int|num|str)_val() in
*.pmc.
Sure. There are just these 1 or 2 data items in the PMC and these are
of course heavily used. But e.g. a ResizableArray would need 3
items: n_first_elem, n_elements,
Test.Simple—JavaScript. It looks and acts just like tap, although
in reality it's tracking test results in an object rather than
scraping them from a print buffer.
http://openjsan.org/doc/t/th/theory/Test/Simple/
Can you please give me a short couple of sentences on it for someone
who h
How non-Perl do you want? Does the Perl 6 version of Test.pm or
Test::Builder/Test::More count? How about the Parrot versions?
Sure, lemme have 'em.
--
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Andy Lester wrote:
>
> I'm adding a section to Test::Harness::TAP on non-Perl TAP.
>
> http://svn.perl.org/modules/Test-Harness/trunk/lib/Test/Harness/TAP.pod
>
> If you know of one, please send me some text to add.
all the big PHP players now produce TAP
o phpt (outputs TAP by default as
Author: particle
Date: Mon Apr 17 06:40:33 2006
New Revision: 12286
Modified:
trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespaces.pod
Log:
[PDD21] remove redundant 'end' from PIR examples
Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespaces.pod
=
chromatic wrote:
What should the syntax for creating new objects be? That is, if I define an
object with its methods in the namespace [ 'PAST'; 'Node' ], how do I create
a new instance of that class?
.local pmc node
node = new ???
Thinking a bit more about it (and discussin
TODOs, part 2 ("todenda"?):
[[ NAMESPACE PMC ]]
* The .name() method is being renamed to get_name() for
consistency, and to allow for the possibility of set_name().
* The return value of .get_name(), the parameter to
.get_namespace(), and the parameter to the get_namespace opcode
should al
On Apr 17, 2006, at 06:03, Andy Lester wrote:
Can you please give me a short couple of sentences on it for
someone who has no idea how/why you'd use TAP outside of Perl?
It's a direct port of Test::Builder, ::Simple, and ::More, along with
a harness for showing test results in a browser. Wh
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 04:44:10PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Thinking a bit more about it (and discussing this issue with pmichaud)
> on #parrot - it seems that we really want hierarchical class names too,
> the more that a Perl6 class isa NameSpace too.
>
> That means:
>
> * newclass, su
Author: chip
Date: Mon Apr 17 08:35:24 2006
New Revision: 12289
Modified:
trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespaces.pod
Log:
Rename name() method to get_name() for consistency and
to allow for eventual possibility of set_name().
Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespaces.pod
==
Author: autrijus
Date: Mon Apr 17 08:52:55 2006
New Revision: 8741
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S04.pod
Log:
* S04: Capture ~~ Signature can test for bindableness.
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S04.pod
==
--- doc/t
from
There are no C or C modifiers (changes to the meta-characters
replace them - see below).
to
There are no C or C modifiers (change to the meta-characters
that replace them - see below).
Author: coke
Date: Mon Apr 17 08:44:43 2006
New Revision: 12290
Modified:
trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespaces.pod
Log:
fix docu typo
Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespaces.pod
==
--- trunk/docs/pdds/pdd21_namespace
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 10:15:40AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> * grammar_rules.pge - support for POD sections.
>
> Modified: trunk/languages/perl6/lib/grammar_rules.pge
> ==
> --- trunk/languages/perl6/lib/grammar_r
In a message dated Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Sean Sieger writes:
from
There are no C or C modifiers (changes to the meta-characters
replace them - see below).
to
There are no C or C modifiers (change to the meta-characters
that replace them - see below).
I don't think so There are no meta-char
I'm about to release T::H 2.58, but I have a pretty big difference in
how globbing is done in prove, per Audrey.
Please download and try it out on your box and make sure it's all good.
Thanks!
xoox,
Andy
Begin forwarded message:
From: PAUSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: April 17, 2006 1:53:40 P
Reading about capture objects, I see that they represent an arglist, and
the the object to which you going to send those args. What is doesn't
capture is the method name (the verb) that's being called. This feels
like a slightly strange ommission.
Compare:
$message = &Shape::draw.prebind( x
Not sure if this is a bug or a misunderstanding on my part wrt the
current namespace situation.
I expect this to print out the number 3.14. (This is a very pared
down version of what Tcl in my sandbox is currently trying to do,
going between 'Tcl' and '_Tcl'.
$ cat foo.pir
.HLL 'cromulent
On Apr 17, 2006, at 23:33, Will Coleda wrote:
Not sure if this is a bug or a misunderstanding on my part wrt the
current namespace situation.
I expect this to print out the number 3.14. (This is a very pared down
version of what Tcl in my sandbox is currently trying to do, going
between 'Tc
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 11:57:43PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> The problem here is the ':anon' sub. It doesn't have a name, so it
> isn't stored in any namespace. Now executing this sub doesn't set the
> default namespace to 'eek' either. Therefore the symbol '$whee' ends up
> in the default
On Apr 18, 2006, at 0:09, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 11:57:43PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
The problem here is the ':anon' sub. It doesn't have a name, so it
isn't stored in any namespace. Now executing this sub doesn't set the
default namespace to 'eek' either. Therefor
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 01:15:45AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Yeah. Many thanks for the 'easy workaround.'
> This is fixed now in r12310.
Thanks.
--
Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 01:52:43PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
:
: On Apr 17, 2006, at 0:02, Nicholas Clark wrote:
:
: >I think Dan was thinking that internally everything should be fixed
: >width,
: >and for practical reasons pick the smallest of 8 bit, UCS-16 and UCS-32
: >internally. Conver
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 01:55:59PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
> I'm about to release T::H 2.58, but I have a pretty big difference in
> how globbing is done in prove, per Audrey.
>
> Please download and try it out on your box and make sure it's all good.
Tests fine on OS X 10.4.6/perl 5.8.7
dha
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 07:25:27PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 10:15:40AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > * grammar_rules.pge - support for POD sections.
> > ## This rule handles whitespace and comments between tokens.
> > -## XXX: Add pod directive handling
> >
>
--- David Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Test.SimpleJavaScript. It looks and acts just like tap, although in
> reality it's tracking test results in an object rather than scraping
> them from a print buffer.
>
>http://openjsan.org/doc/t/th/theory/Test/Simple/
Tracking the results in
Andy Lester wrote:
I'm about to release T::H 2.58, but I have a pretty big difference in
how globbing is done in prove, per Audrey.
Please download and try it out on your box and make sure it's all good.
One warning thrown, apparently in t/00compile.t. 37 tests skipped for
"various reaso
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:14 PM, James E Keenan wrote:
Here is a portion of the output of 'prove -vb t/test-harness.t'.
Is it what you would expect?
The big thing that's a question is in globbing of files on the
command line.
--
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Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tracking the results in an object is a better choice than scraping from
> a print buffer. One of the frustrating issues with Perl's testing
> tools is the limited flexibility we have due to reading the output from
> STDOUT.
I like that aspect about TAP...
On Monday 17 April 2006 18:09, Ovid wrote:
> Tracking the results in an object is a better choice than scraping from
> a print buffer. One of the frustrating issues with Perl's testing
> tools is the limited flexibility we have due to reading the output from
> STDOUT.
... an object of which TAP-
--- Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Since it looks like we're going to stick with reading information
> from
> > a print buffer, we should at least publish an EBNF grammar for the
> > output.
>
> Patches welcome!
OK, I've a bunch of TPF stuff I'm wrapping up, but if I have some tuits
Since it looks like we're going to stick with reading information from
a print buffer, we should at least publish an EBNF grammar for the
output.
Patches welcome!
(Interestingly, if we did that, we could potentially
incorporate that into Test::Harness and allow folks to provide their
own gram
--- chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are a lot of reasons why having separate testing and analysis
> processes are very good and there are a lot of reasons why having
> file-based communication is very, very good.
OK, you raise some good points. Then by relying on the output and
scra
On Monday 17 April 2006 18:50, Ovid wrote:
> The only problem I see with that is the occasional buffering errors I
> see on my Mac where the STDERR and STDOUT don't line up.
Agreed. Is it too late to send everything to STDOUT where it belongs?
-- c
Dave Whipp wrote:
> Perhaps I'm not fully groking the abstraction of the capture-object, but
> it seems to me that there should be a slot in it for the method. For
> dispatch, all three things are needed (invocant, method, args); so if
> you're going to put two of them in one object, then maybe the
Author: autrijus
Date: Mon Apr 17 20:39:37 2006
New Revision: 8765
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S06.pod
Log:
* S06: Clarified "multidimensional Capture" part by stating
that only the positional/named parts gets into *@;x, and
the invocant is exempt from it. This allows for method
call
* Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-18 03:15]:
> Tracking the results in an object is a better choice than
> scraping from a print buffer.
If that were universally true, we wouldn’t have plaintext network
protocols, would we? And I think making TAP a protocol instead of
an API was the right choice
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