Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
But I'm not really too worried any more, the CamelPack means it's much easier not to just install from source than use the PPM system. s/not/now/ sigh Adam K

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Offer Kaye
On 2/6/06, Adam Kennedy wrote: > > > But I'm not really too worried any more, the CamelPack means it's much > > easier not to just install from source than use the PPM system. > > s/not/now/ > Installing from souce == compiling every module that needs it... How is that *easier* than installing a p

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Offer Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-06 09:15]: >Installing from souce == compiling every module that needs it... >How is that *easier* than installing a pre-compiled package? You don’t need sit there turning a crank while the compiler does its job. Does it take longer? Sure. Is it harder? No

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Smylers
Offer Kaye writes: > On 2/5/06, Offer Kaye wrote: > > > [http://ppm.activestate.com/BuildStatus/5.8-windows/windows-5.8/Scalar-List-Util-1.15.txt > > > Something funky here... Last night I looked at "Scalar-List-Util"... > but the correct name as Tyler said is "Scalar-List-Utils", with an "s"

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Smylers
Offer Kaye writes: > I see what you mean... what threw me off was that [List::Util and > Scalar::Util are] not listed under: > http://search.cpan.org/dist/perl-5.8.8/ Well spotted! List/Util.pm (including pod) is here: http://search.cpan.org/src/NWCLARK/perl-5.8.8/ext/List/Util/lib/List/Util.

Re: Param count checks

2006-02-06 Thread Roger Browne
Chip Salzenberg wrote: > I'm struggling with good PIR syntax for it > though ... Void calls will be common, so it'd be nice to express > them easily. How about a 'void' keyword: void foo(bar, baz) Roger

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Offer Kaye
On 2/6/06, Smylers wrote: > > So it seems the extra level of subdirectories are causing List::Util > (and a whole bunch of other modules) not to show up in the main perl > dist page. > > Is Cpan Search's heuristic for what gets included documented anywhere? Now that I think about it, I seem to rec

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread demerphq
On 2/5/06, Offer Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW Gozer have you looked at the first line: > Cannot forceunlink D:\cpanrun\build\5-8-0\lib\auto\List\Util\Util.dll: > Permission denied at D:\cpanrun\build\5-8-0\lib/File/Find.pm line 874 > > Maybe the script is trying to delete a file that the s

Re: [perl #38236] [PATCH] Restrict clear_eh to handlers in the current context

2006-02-06 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Bob Rogers wrote: Phooey; I should read what I write. This version changes the word "sub" to "handler" in a comment, thereby causing it to make sense. I've now implemented the proposed stricter clear_eh semantics. That is * clear_eh can only clear exception handlers * and only from the curr

Re: PGE vs bindings (was Re: embparrot still has two failures)

2006-02-06 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 08:50:02AM +0800, Audrey Tang wrote: > On 2/6/06, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 11:34:33AM +0800, Audrey Tang wrote: > > > That seems to be a fatal error at PGE's side: > > > > > >$ echo 'rule $x:=[]' | parrot demo.pir > > >

Re: Param count checks

2006-02-06 Thread Chip Salzenberg
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:23:40AM +, Roger Browne wrote: > Chip Salzenberg wrote: > > I'm struggling with good PIR syntax for it > > though ... Void calls will be common, so it'd be nice to express > > them easily. > > How about a 'void' keyword: >void foo(bar, baz) Being the first propo

Re: Param count checks

2006-02-06 Thread jerry gay
On 2/6/06, Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:23:40AM +, Roger Browne wrote: > > Chip Salzenberg wrote: > > > I'm struggling with good PIR syntax for it > > > though ... Void calls will be common, so it'd be nice to express > > > them easily. > > > > How abo

Re: Default tests, beta testing, etc.

2006-02-06 Thread Chris Dolan
On Feb 6, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Adam Kennedy wrote: In fact, what you just asked is already listed in the PITA documentation as within it's scope. For lack of a better name, I've called it Fallout Testing. As opposed to Rot Testing, which is when your module doesn't change, but makes sure it s

Re: Kwalitee in your dependencies (was CPAN Upload: etc etc)

2006-02-06 Thread David Cantrell
David Landgren wrote: David Cantrell wrote: brian d foy wrote: Seriously though, I would expect things in Win32::* to only work on Windows, things in Linux::* only to work on linux, and so on for many other sections (including Mac::* where I have some modules). Portable code isn't always the g

Re: Param count checks

2006-02-06 Thread Chip Salzenberg
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 07:33:08AM -0800, jerry gay wrote: > since we already have (as will reminded me) syntax that can be used to > express this difference, and it's tested, i may as well mention it. > > () = foo(42) > > works and is tested (the last two tests) in t/compilers/imcc/pcc.t. No,

Re: [perl #38406] [BUG] PGE - truncating PIR code generated by p6rule

2006-02-06 Thread Allison Randal
On Feb 5, 2006, at 3:05, Leopold Toetsch via RT wrote: .sub "dump" method .param int level The level argument isn't optional at all. Turning on argument count checks would prevent such errors. It has to be: .sub "dump" method .param int level :optional Okay, thanks, changed. Joshua

Re: [perl #38406] [BUG] PGE - truncating PIR code generated by p6rule

2006-02-06 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Allison Randal wrote: On Feb 5, 2006, at 3:05, Leopold Toetsch via RT wrote: ... Turning on argument count checks would prevent such errors. What's the difference between :optional and :opt_flag? I found a few lines of documentation on these once I knew what to grep for, but that's all.

Re: [perl #38406] [BUG] PGE - truncating PIR code generated by p6rule

2006-02-06 Thread Joshua Isom
You use :optional to denote an optional parameter, and :opt_flag on an int that is set to "true" if there's a parameter in :optional. The fact that :opt_flag is optional could be construed to be a bug. But all tests successful for me now for punie, and fairly quickly, so I'm going to assume t

Re: [perl #38406] [BUG] PGE - truncating PIR code generated by p6rule

2006-02-06 Thread jerry gay
On 2/6/06, Allison Randal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 5, 2006, at 3:05, Leopold Toetsch via RT wrote: > > > > .sub "dump" method > > .param int level > > > > The level argument isn't optional at all. Turning on argument count > > checks would prevent such errors. > > It has to be: > >

Re: overloading the variable declaration process

2006-02-06 Thread Larry Wall
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 07:26:09PM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote: : Part way through writing this, I had a brief chat on #perl6 with : stevan (and apparently the meta-model is still quite in flux) and he : said my question was related to Larry's "class but undef" idea, and : that Larry should talk

Re: Is S05 correct?

2006-02-06 Thread Larry Wall
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 07:26:44AM +1100, Andrew Savige wrote: : --- Larry Wall wrote: : > Yes, that's a typo. : : Which reminds me, I noticed some Synopsis typos as follows. Fixed, thanks! Larry

Re: [perl #38406] [BUG] PGE - truncating PIR code generated by p6rule

2006-02-06 Thread Allison Randal
On Feb 6, 2006, at 10:04, Leopold Toetsch via RT wrote: Allison Randal wrote: What's the difference between :optional and :opt_flag? I found a few lines of documentation on these once I knew what to grep for, but that's all. Seed pdd03. :optional is the argument. :opt_flag is 1/0 if the arg

Re: A GraphViz eye view of Parrot

2006-02-06 Thread Allison Randal
On Feb 5, 2006, at 5:56, dakkar wrote: I did, and the big problem is that it has a size of 106967 x 2031 pts, which I think translates to 1485 x 28 inches. This not only makes it hard to display, but also hard to follow... That's more a result of Parrot than it is of any particular diagram f

[perl #38447] [BUG] bc tests should check for installed python

2006-02-06 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by jerry gay # Please include the string: [perl #38447] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=38447 > almost all the languages/bc tests are failing if python's not installed. output below. ~je

Re: overloading the variable declaration process

2006-02-06 Thread Darren Duncan
At 3:02 PM +0800 2/6/06, Audrey Tang wrote: On 2/6/06, Darren Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Speaking briefly, I would like it if Perl 6 provided a way for a class (or role, or meta-class, etc) to declare that all variables declared to be of that type are automatically/implicitly set to a

Re: Macros?

2006-02-06 Thread Larry Wall
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 02:32:08AM +0100, Brad Bowman wrote: : : Hi, : : I've read and reread the macro explanation but I'm still not entirely : clear on number of things. The questions and thoughts below are based : on my (mis)understanding. : : On 03/02/06 02:05, Larry Wall wrote: : >Macr

Re: Binary distributions

2006-02-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
Offer Kaye wrote: On 2/6/06, Adam Kennedy wrote: But I'm not really too worried any more, the CamelPack means it's much easier not to just install from source than use the PPM system. s/not/now/ Installing from souce == compiling every module that needs it... How is that *easier* than inst

Re: overloading the variable declaration process

2006-02-06 Thread Luke Palmer
On 2/6/06, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is mostly motivated by linguistics rather than computer science, > insofar as types/classes/roles in natural language are normally > represented by generic objects rather than "meta" objects. When I > ask in English: > > Can a dog bark? >

RE: Is S05 correct?

2006-02-06 Thread Joe Gottman
> -Original Message- > From: Larry Wall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:03 PM > To: perl6-language@perl.org > Subject: Re: Is S05 correct? > > On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 07:26:44AM +1100, Andrew Savige wrote: > : --- Larry Wall wrote: > : > Yes, that's a typo.

Re: Is S05 correct?

2006-02-06 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 08:29:54PM -0500, Joe Gottman wrote: >This may be a stupid question, but where can I view the fixed Synopsis? > When I go to http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S05.html, I see that > the modification date is November 16, 2005. Is this the most up-to-date > version?

Re: Param count checks

2006-02-06 Thread Bob Rogers
From: Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 08:22:21 -0800 On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 07:33:08AM -0800, jerry gay wrote: > since we already have (as will reminded me) syntax that can be used to > express this difference, and it's tested, i may as well mention it.

Re: Param count checks

2006-02-06 Thread Joshua Isom
From what I can tell, the biggest concern is how different languages will want it done. Why not allow it to be hll specific? Perhaps either using a .HLL directive or perhaps a sub with a :hll_init or something that is called whenever entering that hll, so strictness can be defined per hll and

Re: overloading the variable declaration process

2006-02-06 Thread Matt Fowles
Larry~ On 2/6/06, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is mostly motivated by linguistics rather than computer science, > insofar as types/classes/roles in natural language are normally > represented by generic objects rather than "meta" objects. When I > ask in English: > > Can a dog

Re: Is S05 correct?

2006-02-06 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 08:29:54PM -0500, Joe Gottman wrote: >This may be a stupid question, but where can I view the fixed Synopsis? I don't think it's a stupid question at all. Larry could have meant "it's fixed in my working copy" when he said "fixed!" and there would be no possibility for

add methods in dynpmc

2006-02-06 Thread François PERRAD
Hi all, With the following patch, I try to add two methods (tostring & tonumber) at each Lua PMC. With the first new test, I obtain : Method 'tostring' not found current instr.: '_main' pc 13 (languages\lua\t\pmc\number_10.pir:6) What is it wrong or what have I forget to do ? François. add