HaloO,
I'm still trying to understand the concept of context
in Perl6 from a typing perspective. My current interpretation
let me to coin three levels of typing in Perl6: syntactic, static
and dynamic. I guess the latter two are well known but the syntactic
type is new---at least do I hope so. Ple
Hi!
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
>
> For all the activity going on with CPANTS, we have nothing on
> qa.perl.org that refers to it.
>
> Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up
> on qa.perl.org's front page?
I'll wirte up something
What do you think about adding a has_license kwalitee to CPANTS ?
Checking if the META.yml has that entry ?
For extra points you might also parse the module file to see if there
is copyright and license information and if they are the same as in META.yml
This will encourage people state clearly w
Hi!
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:24:26PM +0200, Tels wrote:
> > The cpants analysis fails to recognise this as valid. What is it
> > looking for and/or could it be taught to look for this? I thought that
> > it was only looking for a string eval of "use Test::Pod".
>
> I would like to know the sam
Hi!
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:48:02AM +0200, David Landgren wrote:
> Seriously though, I have a module whose test suite includes Test::Pod
> and Test::Pod::Coverage, except that I use the following construct:
>
> SKIP: {
> skip( 'Test::Pod not installed on this system', 1 )
> unles
Hi!
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 09:30:03PM +0200, David Landgren wrote:
> Yeah, but I'm loathe to dedicate two separate test files merely to score
> two points of Kwalitee. As it is, I'd just much rather bundle both tests
> in a 00_basic.t file along with all the other standard no-brainer tests.
I
Thomas Klausner wrote:
[...]
The cpants analysis fails to recognise this as valid. What is it looking
for and/or could it be taught to look for this? I thought that it was
only looking for a string eval of "use Test::Pod".
It does, but the qq{} you're using isn't recognised by the regex. I'l
Thomas Klausner wrote:
Hi!
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 09:30:03PM +0200, David Landgren wrote:
Yeah, but I'm loathe to dedicate two separate test files merely to score
two points of Kwalitee. As it is, I'd just much rather bundle both tests
in a 00_basic.t file along with all the other standard
Gábor Szabó wrote:
What do you think about adding a has_license kwalitee to CPANTS ?
Checking if the META.yml has that entry ?
This will penalise all the modules that use ExtUtils::MakeMaker, which,
last time I looked, does not generate the license metadata, even though
the module may clearly
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 13:01 +0200, TSa wrote:
> Why shouldn't there be a lvalue traversal that
> in the end makes
>
>($x, $y) = \($a, $b);
>
> actually mean
>
>$x = \$a; $y = \$b;
Does this not go from one sequence point (evaluate the rhs sufficiently,
then perform the lvalue assignmen
HaloO,
Ingo Blechschmidt wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED];# Ref to array
\(@array); # List of refs to @array's elements, i.e. same as
map { \$_ } @array;
# Weird (violating the "parens are only for grouping" rule), but
# consistent with Perl 5.
Correct?
I opt for 'no'. () sh
HaloO Larry,
you wrote:
We can do whatever we like with \ since it's really a *macro* that
Could you explain me the rational why \ and other ops like =,
:= are not normal overloadable, possibly MMD operators?
imposes lvalue context (or at least, indirection in the abstract, if
we were ever
One thing that is extraordinarily hard to do with the facilities we
have today is finding the responsive optimum between laziness and
eagerness.
Let's use an example.
WWW::Mechanize comes with a nice example script for mailing list
moderation.
This script can be rather easily hacked to work on s
TSa skribis 2005-09-19 18:16 (+0200):
> sub &*prefix:<\> (Item *$to_enref --> Ref ^ List[Ref]) {...}
> # For the type inferencer it were a great thing to leave
> # the hint that Item --> Ref and List --> List, but how do
> # I write that? Is it (*$t, [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> @rest ?? List !! R
# New Ticket Created by François PERRAD
# Please include the string: [perl #37197]
# in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue.
# https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=37197 >
This patch allows Configure.pl --optimize and Configure.pl --optimize=flags
with M
François PERRAD (via RT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This patch allows Configure.pl --optimize and
Configure.pl --optimize=flags
with MinGW.
(And typo in CREDITS)
Thanks, applied (r9210). I think it was me that got your name wrong when I
added it to the CREDITS too - sorry about that.
Jo
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Moin,
On Monday 19 September 2005 11:33, David Landgren wrote:
> Gábor Szabó wrote:
> > What do you think about adding a has_license kwalitee to CPANTS ?
> > Checking if the META.yml has that entry ?
>
> This will penalise all the modules that use ExtUtils::Make
HaloO,
Yuval Kogman wrote:
One thing that is extraordinarily hard to do with the facilities we
have today is finding the responsive optimum between laziness and
eagerness.
Good, that you remind me to this subject! I wanted to ask the "same"
question starting from more theoretical grounds. I kn
Hi,
TSa orthogon.com> writes:
> Ingo Blechschmidt wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED];# Ref to array
> >
> > \(@array); # List of refs to @array's elements, i.e. same as
> > map { \$_ } @array;
> > # Weird (violating the "parens are only for grouping" rule), but
> > # consisten
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 02:21:43PM +, Ingo Blechschmidt wrote:
> So...:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; # Reference to array, of course
> \(@array); # same
> \(((@array))); # same
>
> \(1,2,3);# Reference to a list promoted to an array (!)
> \(((1,2,3)));
HaloO,
Ingo Blechschmidt wrote:
So...:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; # Reference to array, of course
\(@array); # same
\(((@array))); # same
\(1,2,3);# Reference to a list promoted to an array (!)
\(((1,2,3)));# same
The thing that is unclear to me here a
HaloO,
Ingo Blechschmidt wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED];# List of references to @array's elements
\*(((@array))); # same
Yes, and of course
\((*((@array; # same
\ (* (@array)); # same
Well, until someone invents &infix:<(*> :)
--
$TSa.greeting := "HaloO"; # mind
Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-19 14:21 (+):
> \(1,2,3);# Reference to a list promoted to an array (!)
> \(((1,2,3)));# same
Except that it has to be a reference to a reference, because (1,2)
(in scalar context) already evaluates to a reference, because it can't
be a pur
HaloO,
Juerd wrote:
Could you think of a formal specification of \ the way you want it, that
doesn't exist of only examples?
I can't speak for Ingo, but here's mine.
What context does it give its RHS?
I still have difficulties to understand this concept
but I think that \ is simply
sub
At 06:22 19/09/2005 -0700, you wrote:
François PERRAD (via RT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This patch allows Configure.pl --optimize and
> Configure.pl --optimize=flags
> with MinGW.
> (And typo in CREDITS)
>
Thanks, applied (r9210). I think it was me that got your name wrong when I
added
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:48:08PM +0100, Jonathan Worthington wrote:
[ snip ]
> I guess if I could offer any advice, it'd be don't be afraid of asking
> questions and also expect to have to look at the source to figure some
> stuff out, because the docs aren't always as great or up to date as y
"Nicholas Dronen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:48:08PM +0100, Jonathan Worthington wrote:
[ snip ]
I guess if I could offer any advice, it'd be don't be afraid of asking
questions and also expect to have to look at the source to figure some
stuff out, because the docs a
Nearby at python-dev I found this:
http://www.gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm
The Free Lunch Is Over: A Fundamental Turn Toward Concurrency in
Software
Herb Sutter
Nice article IMHO,
leo - STM to the rescue
"Leopold Toetsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nearby at python-dev I found this:
http://www.gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm
The Free Lunch Is Over: A Fundamental Turn Toward Concurrency in Software
Herb Sutter
Nice article IMHO,
leo - STM to the rescue
Yup, and it's encouraging to see
Jonathan~
On 9/19/05, Jonathan Worthington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Nicholas Dronen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:48:08PM +0100, Jonathan Worthington wrote:
> > [ snip ]
> >
> >> I guess if I could offer any advice, it'd be don't be afraid of asking
> >> questions
Hi all,
Here is a patch I promised Nicholas a while ago to generate
src/extends.c automatically. It's not complete and it's not perfect,
but it's a good first step that someone (including potentially myself)
can refine as we see where and how it fails.
-- c
Index: lib/Parrot/Vtable.pm
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Will Coleda wrote:
> Done. All tests pass for tcl in leo-ctx5. (And with leo's recent fixes,
> hopefully this means on all platforms for real this time. =-)
>
> This should also fix the problem on windows, as the missing functions have
> been uncommented, and are now availabl
Good! [inline] isn't real Tcl, it's specific to partcl.
That test consists of the code:
inline PASM {
print "ok\n"
}
which should do the obvious thing. Odd that it's squawking about
MMD_add.
Can you 1) try this PIR, and 2) if that *works*, copy that tcl
snippet to "examples/foo.tcl"
Perl 6 Summary for 2005-09-12 through 2005-09-19
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Yuval Kogman posted a reall
On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 01:09:55PM +, Smylers wrote:
> Sounds like a cunning plan by the Sub::Uplevel author to get you to add
> that module as a prereq for all yours, thereby increasing his kwalitee.
I have no idea what you're talking about. [adjusts monocle, strokes white cat,
smiles villain
Hilary Holz wrote:
Okay - here's what I've figured out - D::C is not recording any coverage
info when I run a test in t/apache. D::C is recording coverage for all the
tests that are in the t/ directory - and the reports are in the realm of the
reasonable.
Have you had D::C collect coverage sta
>> Have you had D::C collect coverage stats for tests in the t/apache,
>> t/response/TestApache format?
>
> yes. when I run the skeleton I pointed you toward last time I get this
>
> Filestmt bran condsub time total
> - -- --
> No, not when I run the example out of the box - I had to move the
> PerlPassEnv directives to extra.conf.in and rebuild (this makes sense,
> though, as extra.conf is processed before modperl_extra.pl, while
> extra.last.conf is processed after - perhaps you fixed your local copy and
> haven't up
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:32:47PM -0500, Comrade Burnout wrote:
> But, some of the test fail because the previously installed version of
> EU::MM ends up being used in the tests, and not the version in my local
> dir (that I'm trying to test)
Do your tests run another copy of Perl? ie...
system
Michael G Schwern wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:32:47PM -0500, Comrade Burnout wrote:
>
>
>>But, some of the test fail because the previously installed version of
>>EU::MM ends up being used in the tests, and not the version in my local
>>dir (that I'm trying to test)
>>
>>
>
>Do your t
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 11:33:07AM +0200, David Landgren wrote:
> This will penalise all the modules that use ExtUtils::MakeMaker, which,
> last time I looked, does not generate the license metadata, even though
> the module may clearly state the license used in the documentation.
The latest alp
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 06:55:12PM -0500, Comrade Burnout wrote:
> i upgraded to 5.8.2 (i think that's the minor version number .. don't
> recall), and that "magickally" fixed everything.
>
> i was running 5.6.1 at the time.
Oh. Did you chdir() at all in the tests? Earlier versions of MakeMake
Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 06:55:12PM -0500, Comrade Burnout wrote:
i upgraded to 5.8.2 (i think that's the minor version number .. don't
recall), and that "magickally" fixed everything.
i was running 5.6.1 at the time.
Oh. Did you chdir() at all in the tests? Earl
James E Keenan wrote:
> snip
>
> The thing that puzzled me about Burnout's test failures was that they
> seemed to happen at places where the code was very mundane. We've
> been communicating on this list, Perlmonks, and off-list about it for
> weeks. We did confirm that the tests were
"Joshua Hoblitt via RT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Isn't this a semantics issue that needs to be resolved via p6l? It is
> however a design issue so I'm passing the buck to Chip to make a call
> about this.
Parrot/perl6 was completely different then, so this bug should be
marked "irrelevant"
"Joshua Hoblitt via RT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Since the rx_* ops are on the chopping block is there any objection to
> closing this bug?
No objection from me. Actually, I'm not an active Parrot developer
now, and don't see myself becoming one again in the near future, so
you can probably
On 19/09/05, Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Part 1: fmap
>
> I have a plan for the $x »+« $y form (and also foo(»$x«, »$y«, »$z«)),
> but I don't want to go into that right now. It basically involves
> zipping the structures up into tuples and applying the function to the
> tuples.
Doe
On 9/19/05, Stuart Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 19/09/05, Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Part 1: fmap
> >
> > I have a plan for the $x »+« $y form (and also foo(»$x«, »$y«, »$z«)),
> > but I don't want to go into that right now. It basically involves
> > zipping the structures
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:42:52PM -0400, James E Keenan wrote:
> Schwern: Do you think it's worthwhile accounting for this MakeMaker
> anachronism in writing test files, i.e., providing an absolute path to
> every chdir call?
I think you misunderstand. The problem is not using relative paths
On 9/19/05, Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> Well, I've written up the details in a 40 line Haskell program to make
> sure it worked. I think I deleted the program, though.
Nope. Here it is. And it was 22 lines. :-)
http://svn.luqui.org/svn/misc/luke/work/code/haskell/hyper.hs
Luke
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