Re: [perl #36842] interpreter.c breaks at line 277

Amir Karger wrote: I ran with --without-icu but I never typed in --cgoto=0. Anyway, make realclean did fix the problem. Strange. When do I need to rerun configure and/or make clean/realclean? (I guess "when it breaks" is an OK answer.) Yep, mostly. ... Btw, if I want to rerun configure w

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

Larry Wall skribis 2005-08-09 16:19 (-0700): > So either something in the context tells us what "Foo" means, or > it will be taken as a list operator that hasn't been declared yet. Is there, by the way, a pragma to force predeclaration of subs, to gain compile time typo checking? Juerd -- http:

[perl #36852] [PATCH] imcc/main.c - to fix segmentation fault on "-E (--pre-process-only)" option

# New Ticket Created by [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Please include the string: [perl #36852] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=36852 > Objective: Parrot stops for segmentation fault when "-E (--pre-process-only)" o

Re: [perl #36794] [BUG] substr opcode segfault

On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:44:47PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > > On Aug 3, 2005, at 20:58, Will Coleda (via RT) wrote: > > > > >causes a segfault in the substr opcode (from tcl's lib/tclconst.pir), > >and forces a few tcl-unicode escape tests into TODOs. > > > >A short PIR test that is equiva

Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

On 8/9/05, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So why not just use "describes"? Then maybe Object.isa(Foo) delegates > to $obj.meta.describes(Foo). Hmm. We have a similar problem with the new class-set notation. These two things: $a.does(Foo); Bar.does(Foo); Mean two different thi

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 10:47:47AM +0200, Juerd wrote: > Larry Wall skribis 2005-08-09 16:19 (-0700): > > So either something in the context tells us what "Foo" means, or > > it will be taken as a list operator that hasn't been declared yet. > > Is there, by the way, a pragma to force predeclarati

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

On 8/10/05, Autrijus Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But it's an toplevel optimization, which is not applicable to > module authors. So I'd very much welcome a lexical pragma that > forces static binding of subroutine calls. Yeah, but the whole point of not allowing that is so that you can over

Re: [perl #36794] [BUG] substr opcode segfault

Nicholas Clark via RT wrote: I thought that one thing Jarkko learned from perl 5's Unicode model was that the amount of code and pain to support a variable length encoding was greater than the space saving that that encoding gives. In turn Dan had decided that Parrot should internally unpack to

Re: [perl #36794] [BUG] substr opcode segfault

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 02:56:46PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > Nicholas Clark via RT wrote: > > >I thought that one thing Jarkko learned from perl 5's Unicode model was > >that > >the amount of code and pain to support a variable length encoding was > >greater than the space saving that that

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 06:03:18AM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote: > On 8/10/05, Autrijus Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But it's an toplevel optimization, which is not applicable to > > module authors. So I'd very much welcome a lexical pragma that > > forces static binding of subroutine calls. >

Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

HaloO, Luke Palmer wrote: On 8/9/05, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So why not just use "describes"? Then maybe Object.isa(Foo) delegates to $obj.meta.describes(Foo). Hmm. We have a similar problem with the new class-set notation. These two things: Did I miss something? What is

[Fwd: call opcodes cleanup]

[ /me warnock fighting - and update below for method calls ] Original Message Subject: call opcodes cleanup Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:52:07 +0200 From: Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Perl 6 Internals There are still some leftovers of the old calling scheme, which I'd

Re: [Fwd: call opcodes cleanup]

Leo~ On 8/10/05, Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ /me warnock fighting - and update below for method calls ] > > Original Message > Subject: call opcodes cleanup > Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:52:07 +0200 > From: Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Perl 6 Intern

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

HaloO Stevan, you wrote: I hope that .isa, .does and .meta are normal Method subtypes and *not* slots on some implementation objects/structures. I am not sure I understand this. Can you elaborate? With pleasure! OK, where do I start? ... The origin of OO stems from the need to organize da

Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

On 8/10/05, TSa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HaloO, > > Luke Palmer wrote: > > On 8/9/05, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>So why not just use "describes"? Then maybe Object.isa(Foo) delegates > >>to $obj.meta.describes(Foo). > > > > > > Hmm. We have a similar problem with the new c

Proposal: "is defined" trait, "is typed" trait, "traits" pragma.

So I'm starting to write the inferencer. Immediately I encounter the problem that every type can potentially contain "undef": my IO $x = open('/etc/passwd'); $x = undef; $x.close; This raises the runtime error: *** Can't call method "close" on an undefined value. The "undef" li

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

On 8/10/05, TSa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is an example of a 2D distance method > >role Point >{ > has Num $.x; > has Num $.y; >} >method distance( Point $a, Point $b --> Num ) >{ > return sqrt( ($a.x - $b.x)**2 - ($a.y - $b.y)**2); >} > > Now comes

Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 03:53:00PM +, Luke Palmer wrote: : A new development in perl 6 land that will make some folks very happy. : There is now a Set role. Among its operations are (including : parentheses): : : (+) Union : (*) Intersection : (-) Difference : (<=) Sub

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 10:47:47AM +0200, Juerd wrote: : Larry Wall skribis 2005-08-09 16:19 (-0700): : > So either something in the context tells us what "Foo" means, or : > it will be taken as a list operator that hasn't been declared yet. : : Is there, by the way, a pragma to force predeclarati

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 10:12:45AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > We can get away with this in Perl 6 because bindings to positionals > happen lazily. So all we have to check for syntactically is that we > don't have a subsequent declaration that changes the syntax from list > to unary (or none-ary).

Re: Proposal: "is defined" trait, "is typed" trait, "traits" pragma.

I'll have to think about the rest of your proposal, but I was suddenly struck with the thought that our "platonic" Class objects are really forms of undef: say defined IO; # prints 0 That is, we already have an object of type IO that doesn't really have a value yet. And maybe that's the real

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

HaloO, Luke Palmer wrote: On 8/10/05, TSa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here is an example of a 2D distance method role Point { has Num $.x; has Num $.y; } method distance( Point $a, Point $b --> Num ) { return sqrt( ($a.x - $b.x)**2 - ($a.y - $b.y)**2); } [..] # This

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

HaloO Autrijus, you wrote: Perl 6 in its unannotated form is also (mostly) a typeless languages, with only the five builtin types, much like Perl 5 is. Counting the sigil quadriga as 4, what is the fifth element? And $it.does(LookGood)? -- $TSa.greeting := "HaloO"; # mind the echo!

Re: Proposal: "is defined" trait, "is typed" trait, "traits" pragma.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 10:25:05AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > I'll have to think about the rest of your proposal, but I was suddenly > struck with the thought that our "platonic" Class objects are really > forms of undef: > > say defined IO; # prints 0 Hmm, bool::false stringifies to '0'? Al

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 07:32:01PM +0200, TSa wrote: > you wrote: > >Perl 6 in its unannotated form is also (mostly) a typeless languages, > >with only the five builtin types, much like Perl 5 is. > > Counting the sigil quadriga as 4, what is the fifth element? & @ $ % :: In Perl5, :: is replac

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

TSa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you wrote: > > Perl 6 in its unannotated form is also (mostly) a typeless languages, > > with only the five builtin types, much like Perl 5 is. > > Counting the sigil quadriga as 4, what is the fifth element? > And $it.does(LookGood)? $ @ % & :: -- Brent 'Dax' R

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:54:54PM -0400, Stevan Little wrote: : Let me make sure I understand this. : : Package is an Object. : Module is a Package. : Class is a Package. : Role is a Package. I think of it more like: Package is an Object. Module is a Package. Class is a Module.

my $pi is constant = 3;

According to S06: my $pi is constant = 3; Is this a special form? If yes, what does it desugar to? my $pi is constant := 3; my $pi is constant ::= 3; If not a special form, should this work? my $pi is constant; $pi = 3; If yes, should this pass compilation? my $pi i

"set" questions -- Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

Luke Palmer wrote: A new development in perl 6 land that will make some folks very happy. There is now a Set role. Among its operations are (including parentheses): (+) Union (*) Intersection (-) Difference (<=) Subset (<) Proper subset (>=) Superset (>)

Re: Proposal: "is defined" trait, "is typed" trait, "traits" pragma.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:34:34AM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote: : On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 10:25:05AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: : > I'll have to think about the rest of your proposal, but I was suddenly : > struck with the thought that our "platonic" Class objects are really : > forms of undef: : > :

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:24:11AM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote: : On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 10:12:45AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: : > We can get away with this in Perl 6 because bindings to positionals : > happen lazily. So all we have to check for syntactically is that we : > don't have a subsequent d

Re: $obj.meta.add_method('foo' => ???)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 06:32:52PM -0400, Stevan Little wrote: > Now I realize that in perl 6 you can re-open classes and add methods to > them. However this is not convenient for programmatic class generation. Because of string eval, you mean? Well, some quasiquoting should fix that, but let's

Re: "set" questions -- Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 11:24:02AM -0700, Dave Whipp wrote: : Do Sets get a sigil? Probably not. unicode : I'd guess that % would be appropriate, because a : hash is simply "Set of Pair" where the membership equivalence class is : simply $^member.key. What syntax is used to associate the equiv

Re: Proposal: "is defined" trait, "is typed" trait, "traits" pragma.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 11:24:05AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > : My current understanding is that the typechecker considers IO to be of > : Class type, not of IO type; the fact that IO.does(IO) is true is purely > : an illusion created by special dispatch for .does. > > Well, that's what I thought

Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:55:05PM -0400, Stevan Little wrote: : >So why not just use "describes"? Then maybe Object.isa(Foo) delegates : >to $obj.meta.describes(Foo). : : I like that, but is it appropriate for subclasses as well? Well, I suppose we could hedge it as part of a collaboration:

Re: AnnoCPAN and a wiki POD idea

Smylers wrote: Ivan Tubert-Brohman writes: I'm also considering the possibility of sending automated emails, similar to what rt.cpan.org does. However, I was still unsure about whether to do it opt-in or opt-out (or no-option ;-). Opt-out (or no-option) would irritate far too many people (not

Re: AnnoCPAN and a wiki POD idea

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 02:26:53PM -0400, Ivan Tubert-Brohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Ok, I've done this. Authors get an email the first time someone posts a > note to their modules, and the email includes a subscribe link. Author > who subscribe get further emails, which always include an

Re: AnnoCPAN and a wiki POD idea

--- Ivan Tubert-Brohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, by now I have already received several bounces because > some > authors don't have a valid email address... And I'm sure there are folks like me whose [EMAIL PROTECTED] email goes into a black hole. There's just too much spam in it

Re: Proposal: "is defined" trait, "is typed" trait, "traits" pragma.

HaloO, Autrijus Tang wrote: So I'm starting to write the inferencer. Immediately I encounter the problem that every type can potentially contain "undef": This is the reason why I've bounded Undef below Item disjoint with Value in my type lattice. Of course all types are applicable as type par

Re: Proposal: "is defined" trait, "is typed" trait, "traits" pragma.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:29:38PM +0200, TSa wrote: > >Finally, it would get tedious to write them out by hand. So a lexical > >"traits" pragma may help: > > > >{ > > # Entering the realm of referential transparency... > > use traits < defined typed constant >; > > my $x; # autom

Re: my $pi is constant = 3;

On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 02:22:04AM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote: : According to S06: : : my $pi is constant = 3; : : Is this a special form? I believe any assignment to a declarator is potentially a special form, or we can't get assignment to "has" and "state" to work right. : If yes, what do

Re: Perl 6 Meta Object Protocols and $object.meta.isa(?)

HaloO, Larry Wall wrote: It might be a mistake to call these isa relationships though. I really only care about Package does Object. Module does Package. Role does Module. Class does Role. OK, I've added that and the Set type in my little type lattice. With your Object still

Re: Proposal: "is defined" trait, "is typed" trait, "traits" pragma.

HaloO Autrijus, you wrote: I think that's because you live in the static realm already. :) Perhaps, but if yes it is an infinite one. my $x is typed; $x = "123"; $x = length($x); Would be a type error. If it's in the dynamic world (as in Perl5), that's just fine. Does that di

Re: my $pi is constant = 3;

On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 02:22:04AM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote: : According to S06: : : my $pi is constant = 3; Perhaps the actual rewrite is my $pi is constant({ 3 }); much like state $where = $California; is desugared to state $where is first({$California}); or some such, a

Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Luke Palmer wrote: A new development in perl 6 land that will make some folks very happy. There is now a Set role. Among its operations are (including parentheses): (+) Union (*) Intersection (-) Difference (<=) Subset (<) Proper subset (>=) Sup

Set operators in Perl 6 [was Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux]

[changing the subject line for the benefit of the summarizer ...] On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Larry Wall wrote: And now some people will begin to wonder how ugly set values will look. We should also tell them that lists (and possibly any-junctions) promote to sets in set context, so that the usual way

Re: my $pi is constant = 3;

HaloO, Larry Wall wrote: In this case it desugars to my $pi is constant = 3; :-) In other words the assignment to a my turns into an ordinary assignment that happens at runtime. Hopefully, since $pi is marked constant, it could be optimized to a binding in many cases, but that's not the

Re: "set" questions -- Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

I wonder if infinite sets (recurrences) will be supported - then I'll move all(ext/Recurrence, ext/Span, ext/Set-Infinite) to Perl6::Container::Set::Ordered - cool. - Flavio S. Glock 2005/8/10, Dave Whipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Luke Palmer wrote: > > > A new development in perl 6 land that will

Re: AnnoCPAN and a wiki POD idea

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 02:26:53PM -0400, Ivan Tubert-Brohman wrote: > Ok, I've done this. Authors get an email the first time someone posts a > note to their modules, and the email includes a subscribe link. Author > who subscribe get further emails, which always include an unsubscribe > link.

Re: [perl #36843] [PATCH] m4 with MinGW

At 12:56 09/08/2005 -0700, you wrote: Thanks a lot, I think this is the first large patch for 'm4', that I received. Tests are still completing here on my Linux box. Sorry, but I forgot this part : Index: languages/m4/t/freezing/001_freeze.t ===

RE: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

> -Original Message- > From: Luke Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:53 AM > To: TSa > Cc: Perl6 Language List > Subject: Re: $object.meta.isa(?) redux > > > A new development in perl 6 land that will make some folks very happy. > There is now a Set

Re: [perl #36820] PGE glob escapes

On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 05:54:31AM -0700, Will Coleda wrote: > PGE globbing doesn't seem to be accepting backslash as an escape: so, > there's no way (e.g.) to glob for a literal *, as the attached test > shows. Now fixed in r8909. Pm

parrot -I?

If I say "perl Zcode/t/harness" I want it to run "parrot Zcode/z3.imc testfile.z3". My current problem is that z3.imc includes a file z3main.imc. So the above command breaks because z3.imc can't find the include file. If this were Perl, I would just say "Perl-IZcode Zcode/z3.imc testfile.z3". But I

Re: [Fwd: call opcodes cleanup]

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 04:32:27PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > [ /me warnock fighting - and update below for method calls ] Just to register an opinion -- I don't think the proposed changes cause me any grief, so they're fine with me. Pm

Re: [perl #36597] [PATCH]Dominance Frontiers

I have attached a patch that fixes this problem. Description: - This patch adds a bb_remove_edge() function, and decouples unreachable blocks from the CFG by removing their successor edges. - I think this is the best way to handle unreachable blocks in the CFG, other than removing them, w

Re: [perl #36597] [PATCH]Dominance Frontiers

Patch attached. On 8/10/05, Curtis Rawls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have attached a patch that fixes this problem. > > Description: > - > This patch adds a bb_remove_edge() function, and decouples unreachable blocks > from the CFG by removing their successor edges. > - > > I think th

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-08-02 through 2005-08-10

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 11:47:54PM -0400, Matt Fowles wrote: > Perl 6 Compilers >Pugs Argument Processing > Vadim Konovalov submitted a patch to pugs affecting @*ARGS processing. > Maybe it got applied, maybe not, Warnock applies. > In Pugs land, "Warnock" of

RE: $object.meta.isa(?) redux

On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 21:00 -0400, Joe Gottman wrote: >Will there be an operator for symmetric difference? I nominate (^). That makes sense, although bear in mind that the existing Set module for Perl 6, and the Set::Scalar and Set::Object modules for Perl 5 use % for this (largely due to ove

Re: Proposal: "is defined" trait, "is typed" trait, "traits" pragma.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 10:31:40PM +0200, TSa wrote: > >my $x is typed; > >$x = "123"; > >$x = length($x); > > > >Would be a type error. If it's in the dynamic world (as in Perl5), > >that's just fine. Does that difference make sense to you? > > The question remains, when exactly doe

Re: my $pi is constant = 3;

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 11:48:16PM +0200, TSa wrote: : Only that ?$b is not marked is constant? Strange that is. Straight out of the apocalypse--parameters default to constant. Larry