>
> Not true. We've done successful compiles before on Tru64. Maybe as of 0.0.6
True, not true :-) I do manual test compiles in Tru64 once in a while.
Once the packfile portability problems were solved back when, the Parrot
core at least has been pretty good regarding 64-bitness.
Tru64 is 64-b
Sven Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am still working on PAPAgei - the PAscal for PArrot
> compiler which is my final year project at I.T.
> Carlow.
Hehe, good name.
> However, I've been struggling with the basic task of
> writing a PRD grammar for quite a while and am about
>
Following a brief talk on #perl6 ...
It is my intent to start a Perl 6 module under Pugs that is analagous
to Pugs::Makemaker, such that the Makefile.PL that comes with each
ported Perl 6 module can itself be written in Perl 6, and function
correctly.
Initially this module will be a shell that
Andrew Savige said:
> Is there a definitive, official, complete list of all Perl 6 operators,
> along with their precedence levels?
I believe that Kurt Gödel, in a corollary to his famous theorem, also
showed that "Any Perl 6 list is either indefinitive or incomplete".
Well, Synopsis 3 is the lis
I found a bug in the perlpod documentation for one of the methods while
adding some tests.
I've already submitted a patch to the author.
So chalk this up as another victory for the Phalanx effort...
By the way, I asked this a couple of days ago and didn't get an answer;
how can I get Net-SSLeay
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 01:43:47AM -0600, Andy Lester wrote:
> I'd be far more interested with we can tell about modules on their own
> and how they can be improved, rather than make it a competition.
Maybe then it should track modules rather than authors. The top AND the
bottom along with a qui
Thomas Sandlaß skribis 2005-04-02 1:17 (+0200):
> my $one = 1;
> my $two := $one;
> my $three = \$two; # same as := ? was actually your question, or not?
No, that was not my question. I deliberately used binding and
assignment, for there to be an important difference, which I think =:=
should re
James Mastros skribis 2005-04-01 22:48 (+0200):
> $x = 42;
> $a = \$x but false;
> $b = \$y but blue;
> $a =:= $b ???
Even without the buts, that is:
$x = 42;
$a = \$x;
$b = \$x;
I strongly believe that $a =:= $b must be false. Assignment copies! $a
=:= $b should be true only if $a a
Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
Not true. We've done successful compiles before on Tru64. Maybe as of 0.0.6
True, not true :-) I do manual test compiles in Tru64 once in a while.
Once the packfile portability problems were solved back when, the Parrot
core at least has been pretty good regarding 64
Jay,
Jay Scherrer wrote:
> Attached is my make test output from my laptop running Fedora Core 3
> x86_64bit: makeTest.txt
> Is there any other way I can help?
>
Thanks for that Jay. What's happened is that in the last week a new test
has gone into CVS, but I haven't had access to systems besides a
Nick Glencross wrote:
> Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
>
>
>>>Not true. We've done successful compiles before on Tru64. Maybe as of 0.0.6
>>>
> Ok, so intsize=4, which is why my md5 test tried to run. I'd be really
> grateful if some could run my instrumented MD5.imc from a previous post
> on th
Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew Savige said:
> > Is there a definitive, official, complete list of all Perl 6 operators,
> > along with their precedence levels?
>
> Well, Synopsis 3 is the list you're looking for, but it's clearly not
> all there. Take the table there to be your d
Bitshift, which one is it?
+<<
or
+<
I believe only +< is possible, because +<< has to be +«, but S03 is
still inconsistent, and +<< comes up everywhere, including Brent's
perl6op.txt.
Can there please be a definitive answer, and an update to S03?
Juerd
--
http://convolution.nl/maak
Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
Nick Glencross wrote:
Ok, so intsize=4, which is why my md5 test tried to run. I'd be really
grateful if some could run my instrumented MD5.imc from a previous post
on this platform.
So what I'm confused about is why intsize=4 when you say the Parrot core
is 64 bit.
Nick Glencross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A small patch to:
Thanks, applied.
leo
Francois PERRAD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I add a new target 'setup' in the main Makefile.
> That's allow the creation of a setup-parrot-x.y.z.exe ('standard' binary
> distribution) that contains all parrot install directories and the ICU
> shared libraries.
Shouldn't that better read:
ma
Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 23:46 -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
>:
>: In P6, an object is a data-type. It's not a reference, and any member
>: payload is attached directly to the variable.
> Well, it's still a reference, but we try to smudge the distinction in P6.
Cory Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is there currently any method of determining the depth of the lexical scope
>> pad stack? None of the ops in var.pod seem to be able to provide that
>> information at the moment...
You can query the pad depth like in [1], but ...
> Actually, I suppose
Jarkko Hietaniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> P.S. (I wish I still had Cray 90 access, the unusual-but-legal
> longsize=ptrsize=intsize=shortsize=8 nicely shook bugs to the bright
> light of day in Perl 5.)
Would break nicely ;)
leo
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can 2 different bytecode segments each try to define a new infix operator?
> If so, how do they number their infix operators to avoid a clash?
The same problem arises with user defined opcodes or generally for a
name => index mapping for which the assem
Andy Lester wrote:
Why is there a scoreboard? Why do we care about rankings? Why is it
necessary to compare one measure to another? What purpose is being
served?
Why is there XP on perlmonks? Or Karma on Slashdot? Or for that
matter, why do we grade students' exams (particularly, why do we of
Forgot to add: in many environments (at least SGI/MIPS, AIX Power/PPC,
HP-UX/HPPA) things are even more interesting -- one can in compile time
decide between different 32-bit modes and different 64-bit modes.
(E.g. in IRIX there are two of each.) I believe the new x86-ish
processors and Linux/gcc
Ron Blaschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> F currently fails on Windows. The reason is that the
> test expects the exit code in the higher byte of the termination
> status.
[ code snippet ]
> The documentation for spawnw (F) says:
> Spawn a subprocess and wait for it to finish. The return statu
Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Ron Blaschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The documentation for spawnw (F) says:
>> Spawn a subprocess and wait for it to finish. The return status,
>> which is very system-dependent, goes in $1.
> Yeah. What does Perl5?
$?
"This is just the 16-bit status word returne
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Moin,
On Friday 01 April 2005 21:47, Walter Goulet wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been in contact with the author of Net-SSLeay about testing his
> module. One limitation I have to work with is that the module has to
> work out of the box with perl 5.6.0 which doesn't in
David A. Golden writes:
> Andy Lester wrote:
>
> > Why is there a scoreboard? Why do we care about rankings? Why is
> > it necessary to compare one measure to another? What purpose is
> > being served?
>
> Why is there XP on perlmonks? Or Karma on Slashdot?
Indeed, and those also have odd e
hi,all
have a Php compiler to parrot project?
have a ruby compiler to parrot project?
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 12:05:37PM +0200, Juerd wrote:
> Bitshift, which one is it?
> +<<
> or
> +<
>
> I believe only +< is possible, because +<< has to be +«, but S03 is
> still inconsistent, and +<< comes up everywhere, including Brent's
> perl6op.txt.
>
> Can there please be a definit
By the way, I asked this a couple of days ago and didn't get an
answer; how can I get Net-SSLeay added to the Phalanx SVN repository?
I'm maintaining a local repository to track my own changes in the
meantime.
You tell me and I'll have Robert set up access for it.
Are you going ahead with it?
--
I'd say toss in a prerequisite for Test::Simple and be done with it.
Anybody who is still using 5.6.0 with no additional modules does
something wrong.
But it's the author's choice, not ours.
xoa
--
Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance
* "David A. Golden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-02T05:27:18]
> Andy Lester wrote:
> >Why is there a scoreboard? Why do we care about rankings? Why is it
> >necessary to compare one measure to another? What purpose is being
> >served?
>
> Why is there XP on perlmonks? Or Karma on Slashdot? Or
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Moin,
On Saturday 02 April 2005 17:14, Andy Lester wrote:
> > I'd say toss in a prerequisite for Test::Simple and be done with it.
> > Anybody who is still using 5.6.0 with no additional modules does
> > something wrong.
>
> But it's the author's choice, not our
Andy Lester wrote:
By the way, I asked this a couple of days ago and didn't get an
answer; how can I get Net-SSLeay added to the Phalanx SVN repository?
I'm maintaining a local repository to track my own changes in the
meantime.
You tell me and I'll have Robert set up access for it.
Are you goi
Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Francois PERRAD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I add a new target 'setup' in the main Makefile.
>> That's allow the creation of a setup-parrot-x.y.z.exe ('standard' binary
>> distribution) that contains all parrot install directories and the ICU
>> shared libraries.
> Shou
At the beginning of the section on hyper operators, the following:
The Unicode characters » (\x[BB]) and « (\x[BB])
should be:
The Unicode characters » (\x[BB]) and « (\x[AB])
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 01:49:24AM -0800, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon wrote:
: I've included assignment forms of all operators in the exponentiation,
: multiplicative, additive, junctive, and tight logical levels; this may
: be overkill or underkill. I've not included hyper forms of these
: operators,
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 11:06:01AM +0200, Juerd wrote:
: Is your view of the world like Python or like Perl 5?
Them's fightin' words. :-)
: Values have no identity in Perl 5.
That's slightly not true, insofar as Perl 5 distinguishes hash keys
by value (albeit filtered through stringification).
Ron Blaschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or even:
> nmake win32-installer
> ?
> The Windows equivalent of "rpm" would be "msi".
Maybe then:
nmake win32-inno-installer
nmake win32-msi-installer
...
(which make the win32 prefix rather superfluent)
> Ron
leo
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 11:22:43AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
: Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >: On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 23:46 -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
: >:
: >: In P6, an object is a data-type. It's not a reference, and any member
: >: payload is attached directly to the variable.
:
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 03:19:33PM +0800, Sam Vilain wrote:
: Luke Palmer wrote:
: >>Supposing I had a "doc" trait, could I say:
: >> sub f2c (Num $temp doc)
: >> doc
: >> {...}
: >>Or would I be forced to spell it doc('stuff') ?
: >Well, first you need an `is` somewhere in there. And
Aaron Sherman writes:
> At the beginning of the section on hyper operators, the following:
>
> The Unicode characters  (\x[BB]) and  (\x[BB])
>
> should be:
>
> The Unicode characters  (\x[BB]) and  (\x[AB])
You should probably read S03 from:
http://svn.perl.org/perl6/d
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 01:11:37PM -0500, Aaron Sherman wrote:
: If you declare a variable to be of a type (let's even say a class to be
: specific), then you have hinted to the compiler as to the nature of that
: variable, but nothing is certain.
:
: That is to say that the compiler cannot:
:
:
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 11:41:18AM -0500, Aaron Sherman wrote:
> At the beginning of the section on hyper operators, the following:
>
> The Unicode characters » (\x[BB]) and « (\x[BB])
>
> should be:
>
> The Unicode characters » (\x[BB]) and « (\x[AB])
This is already fixed in t
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:03:09PM +0200, Thomas Sandlaß wrote:
: Larry Wall wrote:
: >On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 02:37:24PM -0600, Rod Adams wrote:
: >: How can you have a level independent position?
: >
: >By not confusing positions with numbers. They're just pointers into
: >a particular string.
:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 10:20:28AM +0200, Yuval Kogman wrote:
: How should this stuff be expressed? 'use less' is cute, but i don't
: think it really gets there.
It's mostly there as a placeholder for all the "true pragmas" that
can be ignored if you don't understand them, an idea I originally
sto
As far as I know, no one is working on these at the moment.
Volunteers welcome, of course. ^_^
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,all
have a Php compiler to parrot project?
have a ruby compiler to parrot project?
All~
On Apr 2, 2005 3:53 PM, William Coleda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as I know, no one is working on these at the moment.
>
> Volunteers welcome, of course. ^_^
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > hi,all
> > have a Php compiler to parrot project?
> > have a ruby compiler to parrot projec
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 11:29:17AM +, Smylers wrote:
> Indeed, and those also have odd effects: rather than being pure measures
> of users' abilities/reputations/whatever, their very existence changes
> how some users behave, where they do things specifically to increase XP
> rather than becaus
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:31:53PM +0100, Juerd wrote:
> In fact, won't things be much easier if shift and pop workend on strings
> as well as on arrays? Now that we have multis, this should be easy to
> do.
How about defining String is Array? I don't know if I would like that,
but it's an idea.
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 11:27:09PM +0300, wolverian wrote:
: On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:31:53PM +0100, Juerd wrote:
: > In fact, won't things be much easier if shift and pop workend on strings
: > as well as on arrays? Now that we have multis, this should be easy to
: > do.
:
: How about defining
Autrijus,
I was writing tests for split(, ) and I stumbled upon this
bug:
pugs -e 'split(rx:perl5//, "not good")'
Will go into an infinite loop. I also tried the empty regexp in a match
on it's own, and it was not a problem.
- Steve
--- Stevan Little wrote:
> I was writing tests for split(, ) and I stumbled upon this
> bug:
>
> pugs -e 'split(rx:perl5//, "not good")'
>
> Will go into an infinite loop. I also tried the empty regexp in a match
> on it's own, and it was not a problem.
Further to that, I noticed that the somewh
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Has a README... check
Bonus points if it differs from the stub, and additional bonus points
if it really describes briefly what the product is.
Rationale: When browsing READMEs they are often meaningless.
> Declares a $VERSION...
> "AS" == Andrew Savige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AS> The sometimes seemingly arbitrary semantics of p5 split seem to
AS> have become something of a de facto standard, with even Java and
AS> .NET following suit (I *think*, not certain about this and too
AS> lazy to check right now).
--- Andy Lester wrote:
> I'd throw my hands up and let it go, then. One of the key functions of
> Phalanx is to modernize the testing infrastructure of the modules we
> touch. If he needs it to stay compatible back to the relative dark
> ages, then let's just leave it that way.
Though many modul
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