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I suggest that someone should use the tools/dev/parrot_api.pl
and clean up the bin
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Hi!
I found two bugs while trying to compile 0.1.2
I solved the first one.
I ha
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:29:32PM -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote:
>
> Well, if you're just going to look at the wall clock, why use the shell?
Err...because I forgot about the simple 'time' command?
> my $start_time = time;
> `$bin diff 1/1 2>&1`;
> my $end_time = time;
>
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Moin,
On Sunday 13 March 2005 00:43, Mark Stosberg wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:29:32PM -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> > Well, if you're just going to look at the wall clock, why use the
> > shell?
>
> Err...because I forgot about the simple 'time' com
I've committed a patch that currently fixes the t/dynclasses/*.t errors
with gcc 3.3.3 and possibly others.
While I wasn't able to fully track down the real problem, it seems that
dynamic library loading doesn't stand a DOD run, which is artificially
triggered by string_compare, when --gc-debug
Jarkko Hietaniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suggest that someone should use the tools/dev/parrot_api.pl
Yes please.
> I think this TODO item should actually be part of
> "#34325: [TODO] parrot release 0.2.0".
Yep. My "steps towards 0.2.0..." isn't in any way ment to be complete.
Cleaning u
On 2005-03-13, Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> nevertheless, what you are replying to was just a discussion about a feature
> that doesn't exist in the standard Test::More toolkit but was brought up
> because Apache-Test's plan() works a bit differently and there are enough
> people w
Anteusz @ Freemail . Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found two bugs while trying to compile 0.1.2
Parrot is developing rapidly, please use always the CVS version for
submitting bugs and patches.
But as this one ...
> I added o => '.o'.
... is still the same - no problem here.
Strange an
Ian Langworth wrote:
> On 12.Mar.2005 11:41PM -0500, Geoffrey Young wrote:
>
>
>>nevertheless, what you are replying to was just a discussion
>>about a feature that doesn't exist in the standard Test::More
>>toolkit but was brought up because Apache-Test's plan() works
>>a bit differently and t
Mark Stosberg wrote:
> On 2005-03-13, Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>nevertheless, what you are replying to was just a discussion about a feature
>>that doesn't exist in the standard Test::More toolkit but was brought up
>>because Apache-Test's plan() works a bit differently and t
Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jarkko Hietaniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think this TODO item should actually be part of
> > "#34325: [TODO] parrot release 0.2.0".
>
> Yep. My "steps towards 0.2.0..." isn't in any way ment to be complete.
> Cleaning up the API and properly e
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 11:41:08PM -0500, Geoffrey Young wrote:
> well, this syntax doesn't exist in Test::More at the moment (though I
> probably should get around to a patch like I promised) - it's only in
> Apache-Test.
For the record, there's no reason why Test::More has to be the one to decla
Michael G Schwern wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 11:41:08PM -0500, Geoffrey Young wrote:
>
>>well, this syntax doesn't exist in Test::More at the moment (though I
>>probably should get around to a patch like I promised) - it's only in
>>Apache-Test.
>
>
> For the record, there's no reason wh
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 02:55:29PM -0500, Geoffrey Young wrote:
> sounds like a plan :)
Yuk yuk.
> I haven't look at the innards in a while, but do you think the
> infrastructure is there in Test::Builder to support this now? the last time
> I checked I had to jump through some hoops to get an
On Sunday 13 March 2005 00:43, Mark Stosberg wrote:
> > There is also a benchmarking module cunningly named "Benchmark" which you
> > should have a look at.
> Now now, I mentioned in the message I looked at 'Benchmark' first and it
> didn't work. I got the sense it might have only been timing the
Leopold Toetsch via RT Ãrta:
Anteusz @ Freemail . Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I found two bugs while trying to compile 0.1.2
Parrot is developing rapidly, please use always the CVS version for
submitting bugs and patches.
But as this one ...
I added o => '.o'.
... is still
At the request of Autrijus, I've just checked the P5 current version of
Algorithm::Dependency into pugs, and now we need volunteers to P6ify it.
Why this module as the next "porting a module"
1. Genuinely useful (for many things)
2. Very heavily tested, with tests accumulated for corner cases and
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 09:04:03PM +0100, Francisco Olarte Sanz wrote:
> I've checked the Benchmark module docs, and it's not too clear ( for me
> ),
> but I think they measure user/system time of your proccess. If you are
> executing external code via system/backticks etc.. this is normal
I am delighted to announce that Pugs 6.0.11 is now released.
Download it from a CPAN near you, or from my home server:
http://autrijus.org/dist/Perl6-Pugs-6.0.11.tar.gz
SHA1 = 9abe4158791a5bc4ef3a23c31376c2bd5942c6f3
Special thanks to Yuval "nothingmuch" Kogman for his tireless
QA effort
Hola!
I'd just like to mention that the development methodologies Pugs
goes by are those of the test driven school (and test development is
golf driven ;-).
Anywho, since it's interesting from a QA perspective, and it's perl
(sort of), I thought it might be a good idea to try and lure you
guys in
Hi all,
so Guido is talking about his reasoning behind dropping lambda,
reduce(), filter() and map() in the next generation of Python:
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=98196
[Prime quote: "I think having the two choices side-by-side just
requires programmers to think about m
A. Pagaltzis skribis 2005-03-13 23:40 (+0100):
> [Prime quote: "I think having the two choices side-by-side just
> requires programmers to think about making a choice that's
> irrelevant for their program; not having the choice streamlines
> the thought process."]
> But, philosophical point of view
Larry Wall skribis 2005-03-12 16:03 (-0800):
> Just for the record, let me say that I expect the limit parameter
> to split to be +$limit and not ?$limit. I think a number of seldom-used
> options will go this route. Another consideration is whether the
> parameter needs to be considered for MMD.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 10:26:51PM -0600, Rod Adams wrote:
: You could easily write the above as
:
:say (($n1, $n2, $n3)».as('%d')).join;
:
: What I'm not certain about is if
:
:say ($n1, $n2, $n3)».as('%d').join;
:
: does the same thing, but I think it does.
Yes, hyper only modifies o
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 05:12:30PM -0800, Dave Whipp wrote:
: Larry Wall wrote:
: >I don't see that this buys us anything over just shortening "sprintf"
: >to something shorter, like:
: >
: > print as '%03d %15s', $foo, $bar;
: >
: >And your argument list falls out naturally from making "as" a li
On 2005-03-13, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We can just check.
>
> $ perl -MBenchmark -wle 'timethis(10, sub { `perl -wle "rand for 1..100"`
> })'
> timethis 10: 11 wallclock secs ( 0.01 usr 0.00 sys + 8.64 cusr 0.14 csys =
> 8.79 CPU) @ 1000.00/s (n=10)
>
> So the tim
> "AP" == A Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AP> [Prime quote: "I think having the two choices side-by-side just
AP> requires programmers to think about making a choice that's
AP> irrelevant for their program; not having the choice streamlines
AP> the thought process."]
it just p
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:25:16AM +, Mark Stosberg wrote:
> I'm sorry-- I could have made this more productive by posting my own Benchmark
> code in the first place. Look what happens when cmpthese is used. The
> results look nonsensical to me:
Hmm. I guess the comparison isn't taking into a
On 2005-03-14, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:25:16AM +, Mark Stosberg wrote:
>> I'm sorry-- I could have made this more productive by posting my own
>> Benchmark
>> code in the first place. Look what happens when cmpthese is used. The
>> results look
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:15:52AM -0600, Rod Adams wrote:
: Barring objections, I'm going to attempt to compile a S29.
That's great. It's one of the many things I haven't been getting
around to doing...
: Plan of attack:
:
: I'm using a recent copy of Perl 5's perlfunc as a very rough template
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:48:23AM +, Mark Stosberg wrote:
> On 2005-03-14, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:25:16AM +, Mark Stosberg wrote:
> >> I'm sorry-- I could have made this more productive by posting my own
> >> Benchmark
> >> code in the
> "LW" == Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
LW> I can tell you that I want both selects to be dead, but again, I'll
LW> have to translate Perl 5 to something. But some of these things
LW> can probably be translated to things like
LW> Perl5DeprecatedEmulationDoNotUseEverEverA
Larry Wall wrote:
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:15:52AM -0600, Rod Adams wrote:
: Plan of attack:
:
: I'm using a recent copy of Perl 5's perlfunc as a very rough template.
: At some point, I'll drudge through the A's and S's to look for functions
: new to Perl 6. I'll try not to make up too many n
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:03:20 -0800, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:15:52AM -0600, Rod Adams wrote:
>
> : =item multi sub cos (?Num) returns Num
> :
> : =item multi method Num::cos () returns Num
>
> It would be nice if we could just say the first implies the se
I've posted what I have of S29 at
http://www.rodadams.net/Perl/S29.pod
http://www.rodadams.net/Perl/S29.html
I'll leave it there until it reaches some more final state.
Currently up is the "Numerical" section, covering the math related
functions.
I'd also appreciate a review of "Obsolete" to ma
I can't promise a fully correct solution, since I'm not familiar with
this module yet, but I can at least do a large chunk of the
translation on this module, and do it quickly. -- Darren Duncan
At 1:09 AM +1100 3/14/05, Adam Kennedy wrote:
At the request of Autrijus, I've just checked the P5 cur
Ashley Winters wrote:
For documentary purposes, can we make that $radians?
multi sub cos (Num +$degrees) returns Num {
return cos :radians($degrees * PI / 180);
}
my Num $x = cos :degrees(270);
I have changed the trig functions it to have an optional "base"
argument. (I'm option to new names f
A. Pagaltzis writes:
> Hi all,
>
> so Guido is talking about his reasoning behind dropping lambda,
> reduce(), filter() and map() in the next generation of Python:
>
> http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=98196
>
> [Prime quote: "I think having the two choices side-by-side just
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:42:41 -0600, Rod Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ashley Winters wrote:
> >For documentary purposes, can we make that $radians?
> >
> >multi sub cos (Num +$degrees) returns Num {
> >return cos :radians($degrees * PI / 180);
> >}
> >
> >my Num $x = cos :degrees(270);
>
Rod Adams wrote:
Ashley Winters wrote:
For documentary purposes, can we make that $radians?
multi sub cos (Num +$degrees) returns Num {
return cos :radians($degrees * PI / 180);
}
my Num $x = cos :degrees(270);
I have changed the trig functions it to have an optional "base"
argument. (I'm opti
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 09:32:52PM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
> I can't promise a fully correct solution, since I'm not familiar with
> this module yet, but I can at least do a large chunk of the
> translation on this module, and do it quickly. -- Darren Duncan
Wonderful, you++! :)
Thanks,
/Au
Ashley Winters wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:42:41 -0600, Rod Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ashley Winters wrote:
For documentary purposes, can we make that $radians?
multi sub cos (Num +$degrees) returns Num {
return cos :radians($degrees * PI / 180);
}
my Num $x = cos :degrees(270);
Larry Wall wrote:
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:15:52AM -0600, Rod Adams wrote:
: =item multi sub cos (?Num) returns Num
:
: =item multi method Num::cos () returns Num
It would be nice if we could just say the first implies the second.
I guess what that effectively means is that even if you take the
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