On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 12:53 , Melvin Smith wrote:
At 12:27 PM 1/23/2004 -0800, Damien Neil wrote:
Java Collections are a standard Java library of common data structures
such as arrays and hashes. Collections are not synchronized; access
involves no locks at all. Multiple threads
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 10:37:48AM -0500, Potozniak, Andrew wrote:
> To make a long story short I can not get access to the source of the bottom
> frame through JavaScript because of an access denied error. Has anyone else
> ran into this problem or does anyone know of a solution to this problem?
Damian Conway wrote:
Frankly, I'd *much* rather see:
@sum = @a E+< @b;
my Vector $outer = $vec1 E $vec2;
which at least has the benefit of being consistent with POD notation.
I very much second that. Entities have been one of the worst features of
XML (and, in the end, a fairly usel
Robin Berjon wrote:
Picking the HTML entity names is better than the Unicode ones as the
latter are way too long. They may not cover all the characters we need,
but we can make up missing ones in a consistent fashion.
I fear there are too many "missing ones" for that.
Any reason we couldn't acce
Damian Conway wrote:
Robin Berjon wrote:
Picking the HTML entity names is better than the Unicode ones as the
latter are way too long. They may not cover all the characters we
need, but we can make up missing ones in a consistent fashion.
I fear there are too many "missing ones" for that.
Any rea
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0100, Robin Berjon wrote:
> I have nothing against using the Unicode names for other entities for
> instance in POD. The reason I have some reserve on using those for
> entitised operators is that E RIGHTWARDS, COMBINING> isn't very readable. Or rather, it's re
Robin Berjon wrote:
> I wasn't proposing to come up with short names for all the Unicode
> repertoire, just for the characters that are used as operators :) That
> shouldn't be too long, should it?
I'm not so sure about that. I can already see those mathematician/physicists
gazing hungrily at the
--- Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 10:37:48AM -0500, Potozniak, Andrew wrote:
> > To make a long story short I can not get access to the source of
> the bottom
> > frame through JavaScript because of an access denied error.
>
> This is a security feature in most b
Although it doesn't address the frame/Javascript issue, I believe this
Mozilla plug-in solves the bigger problem of running various validators
on a page sitting in the browser.
http://checky.mozdev.org/
Although I must admit that I didn't test it because it appears they
don't support Mac OS X.
> -Original Message-
> From: Luke Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Austin Hastings writes:
> > Perhaps Damian's solution is a Unicode2Ascii perl script that
> > emits formal names, combined with the implementation in Perl of the
> > E alternative spellings.
> >
> > OTOH, Robin's conc
Austin Hastings writes:
> I think you guys may be talking at cross purposes. Robin, I think, is
> talking primarily about coding, while Damian talks of reading.
>
> Perhaps Damian's solution is a Unicode2Ascii perl script that emits formal
> names, combined with the implementation in Perl of the
>
Austin Hastings wrote:
> Jonathan Lang wrote:
> > The danger isn't really in the ability to suppress a method from a
> > given role or parent; the danger comes from the ability to suppress a
> > method from _every_ role or parent. A safe alternative to this would
> > be to define a class method
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Perl6 Language
> Subject: RE: OO inheritance in a hacker style
>
>
> Austin Hastings wrote:
> > Jonathan Lang wrote:
> > > The danger isn't really in t
Luke Palmer wrote:
Austin Hastings writes:
I think you guys may be talking at cross purposes. Robin, I think, is
talking primarily about coding, while Damian talks of reading.
Perhaps Damian's solution is a Unicode2Ascii perl script that emits formal
names, combined with the implementation in P
On 0, Rod Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Also, isn't it a pain to type all these characters when they are not on
> your keyboard? As a predominately Win2k/XP user in the US, I see all
> these glyphs just fine,but having to remember Alt+0171 for a « is going
> to get old fast... I much so
> -Original Message-
> From: Austin Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > From: Rod Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Question in all this: What does one do when they have to _debug_ some
> > code that was written with these lovely Unicode ops, all while stuck in
> > an ASCII w
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Semantics of vector operations
>
> Question in all this: What does one do when they have to _debug_ some
> code that was written with these
Damian Conway wrote:
Robin Berjon wrote:
> I wasn't proposing to come up with short names for all the Unicode
> repertoire, just for the characters that are used as operators :) That
> shouldn't be too long, should it?
I'm not so sure about that. I can already see those
mathematician/physicists
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:29 AM
> To: Joseph Ryan; Dmitry Dorofeev
> Cc: Perl6 Language List
> Subject: Re: OO inheritance in a hacker style
>
>
> Joseph Ryan wrote:
>
> > Of course, roles are another great wa
> -Original Message-
> From: John Macdonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:30 AM
> To: Robin Berjon
> Cc: Damian Conway; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Semantics of vector operations
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0100, Robin Berjon wrote:
> >
> -Original Message-
> From: Robin Berjon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Damian Conway wrote:
> > Robin Berjon wrote:
> > > I wasn't proposing to come up with short names for all the Unicode
> > > repertoire, just for the characters that are used as operators :)
That
> > > shouldn't be to
Robin Berjon asked:
>> Unicode has a *lot* of potential operators.
>
> Are all these for use in the core language though?
Not yet...but give us time! >;-)
> I was thinking about defining short names for the core stuff, and people
> can use the thirty letter names for more complicated things.
Yes
Jeff Clites writes:
> We could certainly do some sort of language-specific prefixing, as Tim
> suggested, but it seems that we are then going to trouble to unify,
> only to immediately de-unify. Certainly, a random Java programmer
> shouldn't have to worry about naming a class so that it doesn't
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Simon Cozens wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Coleda) writes:
What's going on with the ordering of messages? My message of : Tue,
27 Jan 2004 19:53:15 -0500 just made it to the list, a day after my
(also delayed) /followup/ to that message. And Leo, who
I have been getting out of order messages from this list for months...
I just assumed that the internet was a mysterious thing...
Matt
Will Coleda wrote:
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Simon Cozens wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Coleda) writes:
What's going on with the ordering
Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ another TOFU [1] ]
AOL
leo
> Mike~
> You rock. That is really nice.
> Matt
> Michael Scott wrote:
>> I've add inline docs to everything in src (except for malloc.c and
>> malloc-trace.c).
>>
>> At times I wondered whether this was the right thing to
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 09:12 , Matt Fowles wrote:
I have been getting out of order messages from this list for months...
I just assumed that the internet was a mysterious thing...
Methinks the list is also manually moderated
—
Gordon Henriksen
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On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 11:55 , Melvin Smith wrote:
At 11:45 PM 1/28/2004 -0500, Gordon Henriksen wrote:
On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 12:53 , Melvin Smith wrote:
At 12:27 PM 1/23/2004 -0800, Damien Neil wrote:
Java Collections are a standard Java library of common data
structur
I've add inline docs to everything in src (except for malloc.c and
malloc-trace.c).
At times I wondered whether this was the right thing to do. For
example, in mmd.c, where Dan had already created a mmd.pod, I ended up
duplicating information. At other times I reckoned that what was needed
was
What's going on with the ordering of messages? My message of : Tue, 27 Jan 2004
19:53:15 -0500 just made it to the list, a day after my (also delayed) /followup/ to
that message. And Leo, who responded to the most recent, had his email make it to the
list before either of these. =-)
Regards.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Coleda) writes:
> What's going on with the ordering of messages? My message of : Tue, 27 Jan 2004
> 19:53:15 -0500 just made it to the list, a day after my (also delayed) /followup/ to
> that message. And Leo, who responded to the most recent, had his email make it to
> t
On Jan 28, 2004, at 6:42 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:00:53 -0800, Jeff Clites wrote:
I think we shouldn't try to do any sort of cross-language unification.
That is, if we some day have a Parrot version of Java, and in Perl6
code I
want to reference a global created inside of s
At 11:45 PM 1/28/2004 -0500, Gordon Henriksen wrote:
On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 12:53 , Melvin Smith wrote:
At 12:27 PM 1/23/2004 -0800, Damien Neil wrote:
Java Collections are a standard Java library of common data structures
such as arrays and hashes. Collections are not synchronized;
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 12:53:09PM -0500, Melvin Smith wrote:
> At 12:27 PM 1/23/2004 -0800, Damien Neil wrote:
> >Java Collections are a standard Java library of common data structures
> >such as arrays and hashes. Collections are not synchronized; access
> >involves no locks at all. Multiple th
We have some places in code, where we have to cleanup, if an internal
exception was thrown, e.g. after LOCK()ing a mutex or in
classes/delegate.pmc to free the saved memory structure.
Attached is a test program with some macros allowing code like:
TRY {
some();
}
CATCH {
clean_up(
Sorry about the delay in responding.
My current sample program is 2760 lines of imcc in 23 files, plus a
small .tcl script.
I'll see if I can trim that down to a more reasonable test case.
On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 05:32 AM, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Will Coleda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I'll look into what's involved with upgrading. I'm not sure if I'll
elect to do it or not. It's probably the one major upgrade to a linux
system that I've never done so I'd like to do it as a learning
experience. At the same time, I've heard it can be painful. And
downloading anything with
Simon Cozens wrote:
I think the mail servers for cpan.org/perl.org are having to shift
rather a lot of mail at the moment, for some reason.
For those that are unaware there is currently a rather serious virus in
the wild at the moment and a lot of mailing lists are being afffected. I
think its ca
On Jan 27, 2004, at 3:47 PM, Cory Spencer wrote:
Perhaps someone with a bit more familiarity with the Parrot IO
subsystem
could give me some guidance here. I'm currently trying to get a new
'peek' opcode working, and I'm having difficulties getting the io_unix
layer implemented correctly.
As fa
Mike~
You rock. That is really nice.
Matt
Michael Scott wrote:
I've add inline docs to everything in src (except for malloc.c and
malloc-trace.c).
At times I wondered whether this was the right thing to do. For example,
in mmd.c, where Dan had already created a mmd.pod, I ended up
duplicati
Elizabeth Mattijsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:40 +0100 1/28/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>>$ time parrot shared_ref.pasm
>>
>>real0m0.375s
> Ah.. I want a Ponie! ;-)
Actually some bits are still missing:
- The SharedRef construction code has to ensure that the refered PMC is
share
Melvin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought we were discussing correct behavior of a shared data structure,
> not general cases. Or maybe this is the general case and I should
> go read more backlog? :)
Basically we have three kinds of locking:
- HLL user level locking [1]
- user level lo
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