On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, David Wheeler wrote:
: On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 11:49 AM, Shapiro, Jonathan wrote:
:
: > Well, let's look at a few possibilities:
: >
: > 1) if( $vec bit| $mask bit& $mask2 )
: >
: > 2) if( $vec b| $mask b& $mask2 )
: >
: > 3) if( $vec |b $mask &b $mask2 )
Larry Wall wrote:
> $a .| $b # bitwise or
> $a .! $b # bitwise xor
On glancing down your list I initially misread the bar as an exclamation
mark. I realize that this is a sample size of one, but certainly in
this terminal font those only differ by a single pixel and it's possible
that
> : It's rare enough to need bitwise things in Perl 5 (outside golf). I'm
> : hoping that it'll be even rarer in Perl 6, as better interfaces are
> : designed for the things which at present require flipping individual
> : bits.
>
> I almost wonder if it's wrong to waste ~ on it...
>
> That woul
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Adam D. Lopresto wrote:
: Then again, it always seemed odd that you combine two flags with | to turn them both
: on). There could probably be a bitwise type that would overload superpositions
: to do bitwise math instead...
:
: my Bitwise $a = 1; #woohoo, $a and $b are no lo
On 16 Oct 2002, Smylers wrote:
: Larry Wall wrote:
:
: > : $x ~& $y # bitwise and
: > : $x ~| $y # bitwise or
: > :
: > : ~!$x # bitwise not
: >
: > I think I like that. Except now we'll get things like:
: >
: > @x ^~|= @y;
: >
: > Hmm...and then there's:
: >
: > $a ~? $
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 02:57:22PM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> I find those difficult to read--too wordy. At the moment I'm leaning towards
>
> $a .| $b # bitwise or
> $a .& $b # bitwise and
> $a .! $b # bitwise xor
> .! $b # bitwise not
> $a ! $b # logical xor
> !
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 11:49 AM, Shapiro, Jonathan wrote:
Well, let's look at a few possibilities:
1) if( $vec bit| $mask bit& $mask2 )
2) if( $vec b| $mask b& $mask2 )
3) if( $vec |b $mask &b $mask2 )
4) if( $vec |bit $mask &bit $mask2 )
I think I would have an easier tim
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, John Williams wrote:
> > > : It's rare enough to need bitwise things in Perl 5 (outside golf).
I'm
> > > : hoping that it'll be even rarer in Perl 6, as better interfaces are
> > > : designed for the things which at present require flipping individual
> > > : bits.
> > >
> >
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:07:51PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [1]: This comes from a recent discussion on perlmonks where i attempted
> to formally iron things out for people, since i have yet to see anywhere
> thus far on the web where it was actually formalized.
> (formalization being mark
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Brent Dax wrote:
: Shapiro, Jonathan:
: # Well, let's look at a few possibilities:
: #
: # 1) if( $vec bit| $mask bit& $mask2 )
: #
: # 2) if( $vec b| $mask b& $mask2 )
: #
: # 3) if( $vec |b $mask &b $mask2 )
: #
: # 4) if( $vec |bit $mask &bit $mask2 )
Shapiro, Jonathan:
# Well, let's look at a few possibilities:
#
# 1)if( $vec bit| $mask bit& $mask2 )
#
# 2)if( $vec b| $mask b& $mask2 )
#
# 3)if( $vec |b $mask &b $mask2 )
#
# 4)if( $vec |bit $mask &bit $mask2 )
What's wrong with 'bitand' and 'bitor' (or e
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Adam D. Lopresto wrote:
> > : It's rare enough to need bitwise things in Perl 5 (outside golf). I'm
> > : hoping that it'll be even rarer in Perl 6, as better interfaces are
> > : designed for the things which at present require flipping individual
> > : bits.
> >
> > I almos
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 04:55 PM, Smylers wrote:
How about keeping caret for xor?
$a ~^ $b # bitwise xor
$a ^^ $b # logical xor
Hm, the "seagull operator"?
David
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On 2002-10-17 at 22:52:49, Smylers wrote:
> Larry Wall wrote:
>
> > $a .| $b# bitwise or
> > $a .! $b# bitwise xor
>
> On glancing down your list I initially misread the bar as an exclamation
> mark. I realize that this is a sample size of one, but certainly in
> this ter
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
: > As a productive prefix, it has limits, but there are actually very few
: > operators that make sense to be bitified, and none of them look like a
: > method name.
:
: Could users redefine how the prefixes work and get the productions for
: free?
Rhys Weatherley:
# I'm Rhys Weatherley, the author of Portable.NET, which is
# part of the DotGNU project. (Put down that flame thrower! I
# come in peace. :-) )
Hey. Don't worry--we're not worried about DotGNU. On the other hand,
if you said you were on the actual .Net development group, it
Rhys Weatherley wrote:
The Portable.NET C# compiler, cscc, is very extensive, and is
capable of generating output for multiple bytecode formats (IL
and JVM are currently supported, more or less).
Have a look at imcc, which is our high level assembler. imcc does
register allocation and (curre
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Currently, when compiling parrot, I see the following error message:
cc -g -I../incl
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This is probably a minor thing, but confusing (to me) nonetheless.
The file 'test'
On Wed Oct 16 01:24:16 2002, Erik Lechak wrote:
>
> Is there a module or a script out there that will let me write in
> "freestyle pod" (allowing indentation and reasonable blank line
> placement) and translate it to pod?
Try the Simple Document Format,
http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 10:29:39PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Success ;-) reports, especially from non intel - welcome.
Linux Bagpuss.unfortu.net 2.4.18-rmk7 #10 Sun Jun 23 21:43:05 BST 2002 armv4l unknown
Strictly it's not Intel, because the StrongARM was made by DEC.
Oh, hang on, you meant
In perl.perl6.internals, you wrote:
> A "thing" has three parts, a name (which is optional), a container,
> and the contents of the container.
[ ... ]
> Well, first it means we need to conceptually split "variables" into
> three parts, rather than two as we have been.
Do you have a more verbose
Rhys Weatherley sent the following bits through the ether:
> The Portable.NET C# compiler, cscc, is very extensive, and is
> capable of generating output for multiple bytecode formats (IL
> and JVM are currently supported, more or less).
Oh, excellent. If you're already targeting both then it sho
Steve Fink wrote:
I don't know exactly who has the permissions to do these things, but
I'm pretty sure that if you have commit access then you also have RT
futzing access.
I tried to set the status of my patches to resolved after committing and
got something like "forbidden".
Thanks!
le
Hi,
I'm Rhys Weatherley, the author of Portable.NET, which is part
of the DotGNU project. (Put down that flame thrower! I come
in peace. :-) )
DotGNU is currently reaching out to other projects in the OSS/FS
world to see how we can help you and how you might be able to
help us. One of the proj
Andy Dougherty (via RT) wrote:
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Currently, when compiling parrot, I see the following
Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Have a look at imcc, which is our high level assembler. imcc does
> register allocation and (currently little) optimization. perl6 produces
> IMCC code. imcc can also run the code or write PBC files.
Yes, I saw that. I haven't yet decided whether to generate pasm
or imcc
Brent Dax wrote:
> # I'm a bit confused as to how one creates a user-defined class
> # in Parrot, and makes virtual method calls, accesses fields,
> # and what-not. I can't seem to find a good example (Cola does
> # non-virtual methods only at present).
>
> You don't, at least not yet. Eventual
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rhys Weatherley) writes:
> int x = ...;
> int y = (short)x;
>
> The value of x is truncated to 16 bits, and then sign-extended
> to int. I'm looking for something like the "conv.i2" instruction
> in IL, or "i2s" in JVM.
One concievable way to do that is basically have
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Rhys Weatherley wrote:
> Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>
> > > What is the size of the "int" type? Will it always be 32 bit
> > > or is it "whatever is best for the machine"?
> >
> > It's a Configure option.
>
> That may be a bit of a problem, as C# (and Java for that matter)
> i
Okay, it's been a while, I've been out of it, it's time to start getting going.
Today's first topic: PMCs with real initializers. Here's a snip from
the updated PDD2:
--
=item void init_pmc(INTERP, PMC* self, PMC* initializer)
This form of the init method takes a single initializer
Rhys Weatherley sent the following bits through the ether:
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> world to see how we can help you and how you might be able to
> help us.
It looks like the DotGNU weekly IRC meeting will be discussing
Parrot. Could be interesting:
htt
Dan Sugalski:
# =item void init_pmc(INTERP, PMC* self, PMC* initializer)
# For example, if a class has the known properties "Size",
# "Dimension" and "Color", they may be assigned the values 100,
# 101, and 102. If the creator if the PMC knows enough about
# the class to make the translatio
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:dan@;sidhe.org]
>
> Okay, it's been a while, I've been out of it, it's time to start
> getting going.
Welcome back!
> Today's first topic: PMCs with real initializers. Here's a snip from
> the updated PDD2:
>
> --
>
> =item v
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I sync'd up Parrot for the first time in ages today to get rid of a
PerlArray PMC bug
At 10:49 AM +0200 10/18/02, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
In perl.perl6.internals, you wrote:
A "thing" has three parts, a name (which is optional), a container,
and the contents of the container.
[ ... ]
Well, first it means we need to conceptually split "variables" into
three parts, rather th
At 5:54 PM +0100 10/18/02, Leon Brocard wrote:
Rhys Weatherley sent the following bits through the ether:
DotGNU is currently reaching out to other projects in the OSS/FS
world to see how we can help you and how you might be able to
help us.
It looks like the DotGNU weekly IRC meeting will
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 05:54:08PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
> It looks like the DotGNU weekly IRC meeting will be discussing
> Parrot. Could be interesting:
> http://www.dotgnu.org/pipermail/developers/2002-October/008345.html
The author of that mail needs to learn the difference between GMT and
At 11:07 AM -0700 10/18/02, Brent Dax wrote:
Dan Sugalski:
# =item void init_pmc(INTERP, PMC* self, PMC* initializer)
...
# For example, if a class has the known properties "Size",
# "Dimension" and "Color", they may be assigned the values 100,
# 101, and 102. If the creator if the PMC knows enoug
Rhys Weatherley wrote:
Leopold Toetsch wrote:
[ imcc ]
Yes, I saw that. I haven't yet decided whether to generate pasm
or imcc directly from cscc. I did have some problems getting
"test_spilling.imc" to work. Is this a known issue?
Now yes ;-) Last cleanup changes did break the spillin
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The following patch splits the stack-direction-detection test into 3
separate files.
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On a fresh checkout, I'm getting the following test failure. I'm pretty
sure this is
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:16:04PM +, Simon Glover wrote:
> This patch:
>
> 1) Fixes some minor nits in the assembler documentation (mostly POD
> formatting issues)
>
> 2) Documents the .include macro
>
> 3) Fixes a bug in the code that handles includes: we weren't stripping
> of
At 1:38 PM +0100 10/18/02, Simon Cozens wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rhys Weatherley) writes:
int x = ...;
int y = (short)x;
The value of x is truncated to 16 bits, and then sign-extended
to int. I'm looking for something like the "conv.i2" instruction
in IL, or "i2s" in JVM.
One co
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 07:36:40PM +, Andy Dougherty wrote:
> This patch ought to be harmless. I'd appreciate it if someone else could
> give it a try, and, if it works, go ahead and commit it.
Works fine on x86 (Debian GNU/Linux), arm (er Debian GNU/Linux) and
sparc (guess?). I didn't try it
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 12:07:57AM -0700, Steve Fink wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 09:19:45PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:09:54AM +, Simon Glover wrote:
> > > Here's a brief test for the PMC, PMC, PMC form of the sprintf op;
> > > as an added bonus, it also
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