Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread John van V
Giving talks at YAPC is a no brainer, and I see the criteria of creating public documents and the existance of a deadline being exceeding good things. Documenting the knowlege and preventing the authors from obfuscating the documents (by accident, of course) will generate far to much noise f

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread Nathan Torkington
John van V writes: > If perl.org is unacceptable for some reason I can easily create a > mailing list on puny.vm.org Thanks for the offer, but I don't think we'll need it. I think we're hampered right now by the fact that we don't know much about what perl6 is going to look like. Until we get m

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 02:39 PM 1/12/01 -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: >John van V writes: > > If perl.org is unacceptable for some reason I can easily create a > > mailing list on puny.vm.org > >Thanks for the offer, but I don't think we'll need it. I think we're >hampered right now by the fact that we don't know

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread John van V
> The dual license is already such a compromise. What's wrong with the dual > licensing scheme? Ok, I'm learning here, please send me the link. > Well, this obviously isn't true in general since Perl is a project to > create a programming language and GNU is a project to create an operating

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread Ben Tilly
"John van V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The dual license is already such a compromise. What's wrong with the >dual > > licensing scheme? > >Ok, I'm learning here, please send me the link. Ships with Perl. Perl is copyrighted and the copyright holders say you can use their copyrighted cod

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 05:11:56PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: > Barring anyone else doing it, I should go to YAPC and talk about perl 6's > guts, at least the bits available at that point. TPC too. ('Course, there's > the question of getting there, but that's a separate issue) Well, if you can'

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread David Grove
"Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "John van V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Actually, this the ~only~ obvious thing here. What I > >just learned from the GNU/FSF/UWIN/MinGW issue is that > >perl ~is~ legally defined as an operating system. > > Defined by who? I am curious her

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread Ben Tilly
"David Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >"Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "John van V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >Actually, this the ~only~ obvious thing here. What I > > >just learned from the GNU/FSF/UWIN/MinGW issue is that > > >perl ~is~ legally defined as an op

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread David Grove
> You know having you not have a clue who you are talking to > is getting really annoying. Hello David, my name is Ben > Tilly. I am the guy who flamed Tom Christiansen on p5p [...] > In any case if you want action on that it is better to > start by saying that and not take threads that

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
I've got one ready to go on the topic of "Perl 6: the story so far". I'm presenting it next week at linux.conf.au and would be happy to submit it for YAPC and/or TPC. K.

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread Russ Allbery
David Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > BTW, on debian.org, there's an essay that says that they are currently > "using" the linux kernel until a totally GNU one is created. I've been > doing some homework while watching these posts. (Which is also why I now > understand why I could never compl