Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-26 Thread Timo Paulssen
On 05/26/2017 07:28 PM, Will Coleda wrote: > Again, panda is not actually broken. Sounds like it was missing in a > travis > config, but that isn't an issue with panda, per se. It's that almost all travis configs start with "rakudobrew build panda" which now dies, so immediately a whole bunch of m

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-26 Thread Will Coleda
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:12 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Richard Hainsworth > wrote: > >> However, for someone new to the Perl6 world, there needs to be some form of >> recommendation about useful "first" modules. > > Agree, but would go further: > > Someone new to

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-26 Thread Will Coleda
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:27 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 05/23/2017 07:44 PM, Richard Hainsworth wrote: >> >> The issue is not poor quality software! >> >> The problem is community management. > > > You have a point. I think the lack of interest is > because they have decided to use zef ins

Task::Popular was Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-25 Thread Richard Hainsworth
On the IRC channel, Zoffix raised a very valid point: currently some of the "popular" modules overlap. I don't want to have any curation, or human intervention in the selection. But Zoffix is right, both JSON::Tiny and JSON::Fast are "popular" but J::Fast is a drop-in replacement for J::Tiny,

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-25 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Richard Hainsworth wrote: > However, for someone new to the Perl6 world, there needs to be some form of > recommendation about useful "first" modules. Agree, but would go further: Someone new to Perl 6 should not need to make any decision regarding modules and

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-25 Thread Steve Mynott
On 25 May 2017 at 09:59, Richard Hainsworth wrote: > I have just suggested a Task::Popular module on the IRC channel, and > feedback so far is positive. > > I will work on it at the weekend. Hopefully have a module ready soon. > > Basically, I will use my work on the most recursively cited module

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-25 Thread Richard Hainsworth
Hi Steve, Thanks. I read perl6.vip - very interesting and useful. However, for someone new to the Perl6 world, there needs to be some form of recommendation about useful "first" modules. I have just suggested a Task::Popular module on the IRC channel, and feedback so far is positive. I wi

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-25 Thread Steve Mynott
On 25 May 2017 at 08:00, Richard Hainsworth wrote: > I have not seen a discussion on this Forum about removing Task::Star. It > seems to me to be a bad idea. The discussion is at https://github.com/tadzik/Task-Star/issues/13 > There is the distribution for Rakudo Star and it is useful to have a

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-25 Thread Richard Hainsworth
The reference is indeed gone on the Rakudo site. It seems that you removed the reference after I wrote my first post (bear in mind I am in Hong Kong, so before most of the USA) because I wrote when I discovered I was getting an error from zef. In addition, I download the projects file quite regu

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-24 Thread Timo Paulssen
I removed the recommendation to install Task::Star yesterday, so as of writing of your email it shouldn't have been on rakudo's website at least. did you find a reference to Task::Star somewhere else?

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 05/23/2017 07:44 PM, Richard Hainsworth wrote: The issue is not poor quality software! The problem is community management. You have a point. I think the lack of interest is because they have decided to use zef instead. I was really using "Stinks" in a general sense. Next time I will

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread Richard Hainsworth
The issue is not poor quality software! The problem is community management. Panda was the standard way for installing Perl6 modules. It is embedded in nearly all of the "travis.yml" modules in the Ecosystem. I just fixed flaws in a module of mine, which began to *fail* the Travis tests.

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 05/23/2017 11:30 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: On 23 May 2017, at 20:21, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 05/23/2017 10:47 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: On 23 May 2017, at 19:23, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 05/23/2017 06:30 AM, Will Coleda wrote: Removed? It's still available athttps://github.com/tadz

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 05/23/2017 11:28 AM, Timo Paulssen wrote: On 05/23/2017 08:21 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: Would substituting "broken" for "stinks" be polite enough? That's wrong, though. You can still install modules with panda, it's not broken, just no longer in development. Panda kinda, sorta, sometimes s

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
> On 23 May 2017, at 20:21, ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 05/23/2017 10:47 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: >>> On 23 May 2017, at 19:23, ToddAndMargo wrote: >>> >>> On 05/23/2017 06:30 AM, Will Coleda wrote: Removed? It's still available athttps://github.com/tadzik/panda … >>> >>> It is on its

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread Timo Paulssen
On 05/23/2017 08:21 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > Would substituting "broken" for "stinks" be polite enough? That's wrong, though. You can still install modules with panda, it's not broken, just no longer in development.

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 05/23/2017 10:47 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: On 23 May 2017, at 19:23, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 05/23/2017 06:30 AM, Will Coleda wrote: Removed? It's still available athttps://github.com/tadzik/panda … It is on its way out. The developers over on the chat line directed me to zef when I

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
> On 23 May 2017, at 19:23, ToddAndMargo wrote: > > On 05/23/2017 06:30 AM, Will Coleda wrote: >> Removed? It's still available athttps://github.com/tadzik/panda … > > It is on its way out. The developers over on the chat > line directed me to zef when I asked for help getting > panda working.

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 05/23/2017 06:30 AM, Will Coleda wrote: Removed? It's still available athttps://github.com/tadzik/panda … It is on its way out. The developers over on the chat line directed me to zef when I asked for help getting panda working. Panda stinks. That's not really true or called for. Pand

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread Will Coleda
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:24 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 05/23/2017 12:05 AM, Richard Hainsworth wrote: >> >> I was upgrading perl6 and following the standard instructions, only to >> find Task::Star is no longer in the Ecosystem. >> >> Surely if this is not an error, the change should be notifie

Re: Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 05/23/2017 12:05 AM, Richard Hainsworth wrote: I was upgrading perl6 and following the standard instructions, only to find Task::Star is no longer in the Ecosystem. Surely if this is not an error, the change should be notified. Also, I upgraded a module of my own, but the Travis testing fai

Task::Star and Panda

2017-05-23 Thread Richard Hainsworth
I was upgrading perl6 and following the standard instructions, only to find Task::Star is no longer in the Ecosystem. Surely if this is not an error, the change should be notified. Also, I upgraded a module of my own, but the Travis testing failed. It seems that panda is not working either.